1. Yes, My forefathers converted at some point to Islam. I thank them for their sensible decision whole heartedly
2. My head gows down in shame when I see that todays Muslims (Pak in this case) can loud criminal parasites like Baber and feel proud about them. BTW, Baber was criminal in eyes of Islam for being a 'king' like any other in history, not for those fables like he converted people by force, or killed them for their religion. That is all bullshit
3. I am disappointed that in this country there is no dirth of idiots who feel deeply hurt, offended and aggrieved on the basis of imagined/cooked up history; and they are willing to kill for those imagined grievances
RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by Lotan Potan on Dec 11, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
What's more, these Muslims take pride in these barbaric invaders and 'rulers'. Poor fellows dont even realize that these barbarisms is the chief reason why God has punished Muslims and made Muslims weak all around the world.
And for these missiles, they were tested at a very wrong time when USA is waiting to snatch away the warheads Pakistan got in theft and begging.
I accept Muslim Kings were as barberic as any other in history if not more (Save some mongols who were unparallel in barbarism)
BUT, I do not accept they were any extra cruel on non-muslims (Hindus). Infact Baber to Aurangzeb were more secular and relatively just kind among bunch of paracites who inflicted themselves on Indian masses.
Communal passion rousing, along with associated fabricated propaganda has created unjust 'special hatred' towards these Rulers. Mughals never in reality encouraged conversions (except aurangzeb).
Real Barberic, Cruel rulers were Britishers who sucked India hollow
RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by Lotan Potan on Dec 11, 2007 01:35 PM Permalink
Wajah Faridy by your logic as you say Babar and Aurangzeb were secular hence good, I can say Israelis are secular to the Palestines as they are not forcing them to convert and hence they are also good. Britishers were secular hence they were also good. Only muslims felt the need to force their religion on other's throats at the sword.
RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by Sachidanand Shetty on Dec 11, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
Britishers never converted any Hindus to Chrisnity. Many muslim invaders demlosihed temples & properties,looted, burned many cities converted many Hindus to Inslam by force & threat. Many people they captured & took away as a sleeves to their country. Babar who hates Hindus & taken tax from them because they hindus & demolished Ram temple in Ayodhya. Most cruial is Orangjeb he was a Islamic devil who demolished Kashi & Mathura temple converted lots of Hindus to Islam, Even he tried to convert son of Shivaji Sambaji to convet to Islam when refused he killed him. He also killed Sikh guru Tejbhadur Singh & his sons.
RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by wada pav on Dec 11, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
your hindu ancesters 'sensible' decision to convert was not voluntary. it was by force and jaziya and implemented by zealots like babar, tughlaq, khilji's , ghori's,ghazni's and aurangzebs. Subsequent brainwashing has left u people to believe it was voluntary.
RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by Wahaj Faridy on Dec 11, 2007 01:37 PM Permalink
You are exactly among those '......' who live on imagined grievances.
Islam restricts a ruler to take more than 2.5% from Muslims, and 4% from non-Muslims. All these muslim kings could not live lavishly - like any other king - by taking anything less than 20-30% in taxes
Hence, no Muslim KING (paracite in eyes of Islam) ever tried to promote Islam in his state
RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by indian atheist on Dec 11, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
Well if religion is so important to you then what has been done ever to bring back these people to hinduism ?
RE:RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by Vijay urf Teesmaar Khan on Dec 11, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
Yes. I agree. Hindu society has not done any thing to bring converted muslims back to Hinduism. Earlier Swami Shraddhanand was doing so. But he was killed by a muslim killer for this work of his. After that no efforts have been done. We should start these efforts again.
RE:ALL MUSLIMS ARE CONVERTS
by SHRI RAM on Dec 11, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
The religion is very personal matter and it should be limited to the indivdual only at the same time religion should not mix with politics/laws and legal matter, If any how any govt able to do this I am very sure people wont get any benefit and they wont involve them in with religion for benefits. Each person has a right to choose their own idealogy and follow it, no one has right to interfere in ones personal matter.
