I want to challenge the forumnites to be open minded enough to understand what I am going to say without name calling.
Ever since we imported the western system of deMOBcracy, all we are having are anti-Hindu politicians who are openly allied with christian missionaries and islamic terrorist groups.
In the end, whether you run your government through DEMOCRACY, COMMUNISM, FASCISM, DICTATORSHIP, OR ANY KIND OR -ISM, -ACY OR -SHIP does NOT matter.
They are all just words.
All that matters in the end is -->
Whether Hindu civilization is preserved in the Karma Bhoomi by our generation of Hindus.
Whether us youngsters can ensure that India remains a Hindu majority country.
Whether we ensure the long term stability of our culture and religion.
In the end, all this will confirm whether us youth deserve to inherit the glorious VEDIC civilization or not.
RE:Think about Hindutva in a broader sense
by Raj on Dec 12, 2007 06:04 AM Permalink
Arjun, quick question?
How come western fashion / TV /Movies have taken over even fundamentalist islamic countries including Iran??
simple answer, cultural changes are natural and inevitable ... you try all your efforts to stop them it won't happen. Many tried and all failed. Ultimately people will follow things that attracts them .. the only solution is make hinduism and vedas relevant for today and attractive.
RE:Think about Hindutva in a broader sense
by Arjun S on Dec 12, 2007 06:17 AM Permalink
No, I am not suggesting we shield our youngsters from FASHION/TV/MOVIES.
Infact, thats the least of my worry. I am saying we should do away with the WESTERN type of DEMOCRACY and design an INDIAN type of DEMOCRACY, just like China modeled its own form of communism and did not simply copy western communism as it is.
Communism works good for China, Democracy works good for India.
But we need to alter the system to suit our needs, not simply copy BRITAIN or USA.
Our basic needs are -->
1. It should ensure stability at the centre
2. It should ensure protection of Hinduism and long term protection of Hinduism in India
3. It should ensure that India remains a Hindu Majority country int he long term.
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All I am saying is western form of Democracy will NOT work in a country, that is home to the LARGEST NUMBER OF ILLITERATES in the entire world. They will keep voting in Sonia Maino, Karunanidhis, Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, Lalloo Yadav and all kinds of anti-Hindu bigots whose only aim is to destroy and weaken Hinduism.
RE:Think about Hindutva in a broader sense
by Raj on Dec 12, 2007 06:49 AM Permalink
Arjun,, I have no problem in making hinduism stronger but what has Modi got to with it??
do you really think Hinduism will become stronger by killing/suppressing muslims? Hinduism/India have grown culturally by being inclusive. Exclusion of any religion/ideology does not make hindus stronger ... that is one of problems of Islam today and hence all mullah's need forcing Islamic ideology.
RE:Think about Hindutva in a broader sense
by Arjun S on Dec 12, 2007 06:47 AM Permalink
Sandeep Ji,
If Bhagwan Ram's existence has been called into question by 2007 itself, by politicians claiming refuge under this supposedly holy concept of "secularism" which simply seems to be a front for spreading anti-Hindu agenda, I doubt Hinduism will survive 2057.
Our youth will be educated through NCERT text books by the Commies that Hinduism is just a mythological dogma made by the super villanous BRAHMINs (who will also be held responsible for the disappearance of DIANOSAURs) just like they already do in Tamil Nadu.
And maybe I am just selfish, but I want to see the glorious era of Hinduism - not being held hostage by sickularist thugs and chrislamist savages.
I dont see it happening as long as the present system exists.
RE:RE:Think about Hindutva in a broader sense
by Raj on Dec 12, 2007 06:57 AM Permalink
just a bit of history .. Christians used to be quite fundamentalist in 1700-1800's,, what happened? today 95%Christian's in west do not go to church at all ... Islam is going through that phase now. If you really want Hinduism to prosper ,, make it free. People ultimately always choose free ideas . if you instead become fundamentalist and oppose every other religion .. Hinduism will go to dogs.
Just note,, even the worst criminals in movies are shown praying to god ..
RE:RE:RE:Think about Hindutva in a broader sense
by Raj on Dec 12, 2007 06:58 AM Permalink
Arjun,, I have no problem in making hinduism stronger but what has Modi got to with it??
do you really think Hinduism will become stronger by killing/suppressing muslims? Hinduism/India have grown culturally by being inclusive. Exclusion of any religion/ideology does not make hindus stronger ... that is one of problems of Islam today and hence all mullah's need forcing Islamic ideology
RE:Think about Hindutva in a broader sense
by Arjun S on Dec 12, 2007 07:09 AM Permalink
You are not following what I am saying.
This has got nothing to do with Modi or one or two people.
This is about preserving the HINDU identity of India.
Hinduism will become stronger by embracing genuine concepts of tolerance not pseudo-secular concepts.
And we are talking here about the struggle to achieve that kind of Hinduism.
That Hinduism where BUDDHA went unharmed while preaching against HINDUISM.
That noble Hinduism whose only version of a "religious conflict" is a rational debate between followers of Jainism, Buddhism and Vedic Hindu philosophies.
Its that type of genuine harmony that we want to achieve.
And please stop being so childish and didactic when referring to the "MODI supporters" as murderers and what not.. we are far too many and come from wide cross sections of the society, and therefore cannot be marginalized or stereotyped.
