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by Ram singh Dalit on Dec 01, 2007 03:01 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

I believe that this was un-intentional.Anyways the controversy should be closed now as the line has been deleted.

As like other votebanks -there is a competition for dalit votebank as well and parties striving to be "the first to raise the issue".

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by Dravidian on Dec 01, 2007 03:05 PM   Permalink
All lower caste people should convert to Buddhism.

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by GN on Dec 01, 2007 03:11 PM   Permalink
The first remedy is to stop using Upper or Lower along with the CASTE word. its a caste, why the hell lower or upper placed beside it.

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by Dravidian on Dec 01, 2007 03:13 PM   Permalink
What is there in a word my friend? As long as there is no deed or transformation in the heart, changing words is useless.

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by GN on Dec 01, 2007 03:15 PM   Permalink
The word do keeep lot of meaning. a single word can do the trick to divide 100000000 people into 10000 groups.

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by Dravidian on Dec 01, 2007 03:19 PM   Permalink
No. It requires systematic discrimination for causing the extent of divisions that are existing in India today. It is the structure of Hinduism that caused these divisions. Not the modern English words "upper" or "lower".

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by Nihit Saxena on Dec 01, 2007 03:20 PM   Permalink
why to use the word caste at all.. it used to be just a profession.. why stamp it? whats the problem in forgetting about what someones great grandfather did some 100s of years back,.

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by Dravidian on Dec 01, 2007 03:23 PM   Permalink
Profession? Ridiculous. Caste is by birth. Go and check the manusmriti.

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by Nihit Saxena on Dec 01, 2007 03:41 PM   Permalink
i dont see the caste written on my body from birth where do you see it on yourself.. i hope you didnt tattoo it on your forehead or got married to it..

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by Ashwin Deshmukh on Dec 01, 2007 05:46 PM   Permalink
When you want reservation, you proudly say caste i.e. Mochi. When somebody pointed out that you are from Mochi category, you guys feels it as derogatory remarks.
You should be proud of being mochi category.
Why so much hue & cry as long as you are benefitted from MOCHI


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by Vikas Saraswat on Dec 01, 2007 03:30 PM   Permalink
You go and check.You will find yourself to be ridiculous.

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by on Dec 01, 2007 04:03 PM   Permalink
WHy the F*k even use the word caste.. why the F*k is it there in India still? Why cant people jus' be please educated in India and taught from kindergarten to not believe in caste system and n think of themselves as f**kin humans. India cud be such a better place without the caste system.. alas! I empathize with uneducated people because their conditioning was such, but when educated people yell about caste, tht makes me miss home much less.

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by Azad on Dec 01, 2007 03:09 PM   Permalink
have you converted ???

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by Dravidian on Dec 01, 2007 03:11 PM   Permalink
I am an Atheist 100%.

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by Nihit Saxena on Dec 01, 2007 03:18 PM   Permalink
then why ask others to 'convert' and call someone 'lower'?

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by Deepak MA on Dec 01, 2007 03:32 PM   Permalink
Then FO.

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by Dipak Kumar on Dec 01, 2007 03:11 PM   Permalink
Mr. Dalit Saxena, now, you want to ban the word 'lower caste' also!!

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by Nihit Saxena on Dec 01, 2007 03:29 PM   Permalink
are you addressing mr dalit (i suggest him to tattoo these words on his forehead to remind us in case we forget) or to me? i am saying that whats the point of saying one is lower/upper based on ones grandparents profession which he may not be doing anymore.. it is true that comapritively a gold related profession is more saught after than an iron/leather related so whats the big deal if someone says that a mochi/chamar wished he was a goldsmith..

isnt there also a saying sau sunar ki ek luhar ki hoti hai.. should that also be banned?

also isnt michael schumaker a racer of top quality even if his great grandparents where chamar/mochi

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Mochi is not a derogatory word: Aaja.. L