RE:real headless chicken
by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 12:18 AM Permalink
Hey Govt of India,is it right to treat citizens by different ways when we boast about equality of all Indians?OK,I'm a Hindu,you take away everything I have and give it to Muslims.Build hospitals for Muslims,schools exclusively for Muslims,Malls,Barber shops,Cattle sheds,theaters,stadiums,roads where only Muslims can enter,parks,restaurants,railway stations,airports,even my family home can be taken away and given to them for starting a madrassa.I'm fed up of this Govt and its bloody rulers.There is no way the majority community can preserve its qualities/identity in India where even a word supporting Hinduism will make them brand you as a 'Hindutva fundamentalist' guy.While bloody fools like Arjun Singh,E.Ahmed and some other men who wield power in Delhi talk and act only for Muslims even after taking oath under our constitution,nobody brands them.I'm sorry to say this,but I regret that I was born and alive in India in this era when these fools rule us.
RE:real headless chicken
by mahendra dev on Sep 01, 2007 01:55 AM Permalink
dear friend you had no choice where you happened to be born.my humble advice to young hindus is to get out of islamic india before it is too late before they are hacked to death and their women are raped or kidnapped.i am livining in usa for over 22 years and also several other countries in europe and latin where i have lot of pakis living and enjoying ' then why not hindus who are better educated and far intelligent cannot do. perhape they are enjoying the 2 nd class citizen status the have in india that is no body any longer uses word hidustan they call it bharat which is meaningless term in modern times i originaly belong to tribal areas of west punjab and were pushed out of land where we had lived for centuries . but no body talks of our plight ,this man sachar whose father was 1st congress chief minister of east punjab and for the betterment of his supporters in pakistan why did he flee from karachi by air . here in hidustan his progeny is working by their bu""""tt off to harm their fellow co religiost . will any of the intelligent readers enlighten me?and why congress leaders did not press for peacful for exchange of population before agreeing to so called phreedamfor such corrupt and shameless leaders of all the parties
RE:real headless chicken
by Anuj Sharma on Sep 01, 2007 02:55 AM Permalink
Great said sankalp....i wish ki yeh blog woh fools like arjun singh dekhe ki unko jara akal aaye...lekin yeh sankalp humey hi lena hai ki is baar congres Government ko jad se ukhad fekna hai.....Congress Hai hai....Arjun Singh HAi HAi...Sonia HAI HAI......Communist hai hai....
RE:real headless chicken
by forr on Sep 01, 2007 12:27 AM Permalink
I feel suffocated in India under these fool politicians. I wish i can shoot this gang of monkeys mohan singh. Thanks to those who elected them.
RE:real headless chicken
by Ek Hindustani on Sep 01, 2007 12:21 AM Permalink
NO all Muslims want is equal representation and to stop the discrimination against them. Respect them as equal citizens just as you would like to be treated. All we are asking for is some hope and equal opportunity. Indian Muslims fought for India's Independence with thier property and blood and lives. Look up Maulana Azad if you want proof, of true patriotic Indians who never wanted a partition and worked against it with all their might. Muslims who remained in India remained so because the love and patriotism they felt towards India far outweighed antyhing else. And what did they get in return? Ghetoization, discrimination, systematic discrimination everywhere you go. As an average Muslim boy living in Hyderabad, the moment I stepped out of school into 11th grade i felt the discrimination, and feel it to this day. But I know there are a lot of good poeple out there, and you know what India belogns to me as mcuh as it does to you. My forefatehrs fought and gave their blood for India, before and after independence for India, and you can never take India away from me or from my blood. This feeling of patriotism runs deep amonst muslims all over India. Lets us do everyhing we can to support a people that have been dealth a raw deal since independence and help them integrate better. If this is not done, then we leave ourselves vulnerable. Lets walk hand in hand and do everything we can to make our India strong from inside and outside. Jai Hind.
RE:real headless chicken
by Milind on Sep 01, 2007 12:53 AM Permalink
Ek Hindustani,
I agree with you that Muslims or anyone for that matter (religion/caste/sex) should not be discriminated. However two things are worth mentioning: 1.If an Average Muslim has 10 kids, how can he afford to send them to school? Should the state be responsible for their welfare? Muslims take exceptions from the Quran by drinking alcohol, violence, theft etc. Only when it comes to birth-control, they adhere to the Quran. How does Quran advise on providing for 10 kids ? We dont have the oil reserves that the Arabs do!
2.I hope you agree that the entire sub-continent was Hindustan before the Mughals invaded us. When India was partitioned on Religious lines, India lost the land of Pakistan and Bangladesh. The deal was that Hindus will remain in India and Muslims move to Pakistan. I appreciate that Muslims decided to stay with India since they considered it their motherland. However did India get compensation from Pakistan in terms of land for the portion of Muslims that decided to stay with India. A very insignificant portion of Hindus stayed with Pakistan. So in all fairness, break-up of India was a raw deal for the Hindus by making it a pseudo-secular state. It is like you buy a new house with the full price and the old residents continue to occupy 2 bedrooms. And now they are demanding that they be allowed to use the Kitchen and Bathroom too! Hindus are very tolerent and they will allow such use too. But atleast dont side with Pakistan when they win against I
RE:RE:real headless chicken
by Ek Hindustani on Sep 01, 2007 02:01 AM Permalink
Brother Milind, Thank you for agreeting that we shoudl strive for a society filled with justice hope and equal opportunity regardless of religin, sect, sex. Here is my respone to ur questions. 1. Gone are the days when avg. Muslim has 10 kids. This is a pure myth. I dont know anyone in my extended family or even the entire neighborhood that has 10 kids. leave alone 5. Muslims today do not follow true Islam. They pick and choose what they like. You are right about that. This issue is more to do about 'illetracy'. For every person who drinks,indulges in violence or theft there are a 1000 that never will. 2. Partition of India WAS IS AND WILL ALWAYS be the biggest mistake of that generation. Regardless, the deal never was that ALL muslims move to Pakistan. India was proclaimed by founders of this country (Gandi,Nehru,Azad) as a secular country. Your example of a house is a bad one. As far as Muslims today are concerned of my generation, this is was and forever will be our house, yours mine and eveyr person who was born here or legally migrated (ex. Sonia). I love every grain of sand on this land. My attempts are and will forever will be to unite and preach peace and brotherhood. We have a history together, that cannot be undone by some hateful biased ideology such as the one preached by VHP/RSS. Live and let live is my motto. Justice and equality should be in the forefront of a new India. A powerful India, where all are treated equally. Inshallah(God willing). Jai Hind
RE:RE:real headless chicken
by Anuj Sharma on Sep 01, 2007 03:01 AM Permalink
Come on Hindustani....sab se pehle tumhe hi is feeling se bahar nikalna padega ki hindus muslims ko hate karte hai....apne dil pe haath rakh k kahho ki yeh sach hai....aap log allah ko chord k kisi ki ibadat nahin karte but we hindus worship msulims like APJ Abdul Kalam.. you are hesistant in saying that you respect or hindus but i say I worship our ex president. Akandhere se bahar niklo aur socho ki tumhe kya yeh sach mein lagta hai saari galti hinduo ki hai...jab tum apni feelings ka introspection kar loge tab tumhe pata chalge ki kya sach hai kya galat..abhi tum bhi apne religion k bhawar mein ho, ussye bahar niklo kahin hinduo ki galti nahin lagegi....
RE:real headless chicken
by CentreCC on Sep 07, 2007 05:05 AM Permalink
Yes Anuj ..u r right mistakes are from our(muslims) side but now the time has come to correct it.These britishers devided us and the politicians are doingthe same...Lets get united and wish for a better Bharat.
Descrimination agaist Muslims is a fallacy,... why do you think we had Muslim president? .. if you preffer to study in madrassa instead of mainstream college/school who are to be blamed.
RE:real headless chicken
by Venkat on Sep 01, 2007 12:34 AM Permalink
I also stay in Hyderabad. There is no discrimination in Hyderabad aganist muslims. If u feel so it is ur fault. come on tell me where do u stay in Hyd. What discrimination did u feel in Hyd. I have muslim friends. No day passes without me talking to one of my muslim friend over phone.
RE:RE:real headless chicken
by Venkat on Sep 01, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
ur are either lying or having inferiority complex for which you need to be taken to a Psychyatric because there is no discrimination in India aganist Muslims.
RE:real headless chicken
by Ek Hindustani on Sep 01, 2007 12:59 AM Permalink
Venkat - 2 things. First I dont lie, second you have to be one to experience it. I know Hyderabad is way better than other Indian cities. I live in Malakpet, Hyderabad. I went to St. Pauls High School, Hyderguda Hyderabad. St. Mary's Junior College, Himayatnamagar. Deccan College of Eng. & Tech., Nampally. Both my parents are proferssors, my cousin in IAS, my grand fathers served Indian Services wihtout giving out details. Trust me I do not have an inferiority complex, if anytihg i should havea superiority complex, but trust me, there is a lot of hatred and bias amongst people that has been created and highlighete ever since the 'BJP' brought about the 'Babri Masjid-Ram Janambhoomi' in the early 90's. I see people talk about VOTE BANK politics and appeasement a lot on this forum. What about this party using this issue for their electoral benefits?? Dont you think they are the one's that sowed this seed of hate?? Anyways, like you I have many friends from all walks of life, my closest buddies are (hate to say this) hindus. I treat them like my brothers and they treat me like one too. But that does not take away the feeling of fear and hatred that I saw while growing up and still do. Anything that happens gets blamed on Muslims. Isnt that discrimination. How can you say there is no discriminiation in HYD wherethere is everywhere. Case in point the recent blasts. NOthing's proven but Muslims have been indicted on a whole. Prove me wrong. Jai HInd.
RE:real headless chicken
by Pritish Nagaraj on Sep 01, 2007 01:23 AM Permalink
You cannot say Muslims are indicted for wrong, they said Islamic terrorists did this. And they are looking for leads everywhere, even in Madrassa, Is that wrong?
Now do you want to say that Islamic terrorists are true muslims?
The other point of suspicion has been raised abt Naxals .... as they are next to Islamic terrorists who have blasted bombs till now.
However the Naxals do not have a record of bombing innocents... they recently burnt a bus in the wee hours of the morning in Karnataka... before lighting it, they asked everyone to get down the bus.... their cause is not religious, .. they are against capitalist notion of democracy. .... So it is only Islamic terrorists who are left out to be suspected.
If you say that it can someone else,... pls say who else it could be ... masterminding so many bombs to be blown out simultaneously ???
I agree police are brainless,... but I think Intelligence beauro has people with heads on their shoulders.
RE:real headless chicken
by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 01:17 AM Permalink
Ek Hindustani,can I ask you a question which was in my mind for a long timme? You mentioned BJP bringing down Babri Masjid.Have you are anyone in Muslim community who have open minds thought about the fact that an invader named Babar came,razed down a temple that was there in Ayodhya which Hindus held in high respect and built a mosque to show his supremacy.So as Indians,you also would be treating Babar as a foreign invader who is an enemy of ours and the mosque he built should not be a place of worship for you.If Indian Muslims are really brothers and sisters to Hindus of India,wouldn't it have been better if as a community,you decided to give the land to Hindus to build a place of worship for Lord Ram who we belive was born there? Wouldn't it have preserved peace,brotherhood and joining of minds? If Musdlims can look at Mecca and Madina with utmost respect to the point of possessiveness,why can't we Hindus be allowed what we rightfully had till came a plunderer? Now you may say there is no evidence of a temple,but doesn't legends and beliefs hold more value and what was Babar doing in a place like Ayodhya when he had all the other places to build? Consider about Kashi Vishwanath temple too.Kashi have been our sacred place for atleast 5000 years and how come a mosque was built there? Can the Hindus living in Saudi Arabia request its monarchs for land to build a temple each in prime locations of Mecca ana Madeena?
RE:real headless chicken
by mahendra dev on Sep 01, 2007 06:30 AM Permalink
when i was in school in 1947 before partition moslem boys used to sing HANS KE LIYA HAI PAKISTAN LAR KE LENGE HINDUSTAN . IT IS PROVING TRUE DUE TO STUPIDITY OF OUR CORRUPT DHOTI TOPIWALAS hindus leave lndia before it is too late you will be more safe in usa
RE:real headless chicken
by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Mahendra Dev sir,the worst thing we got after independence is the congress leaders.They are a bunch apart that we will never see anywhere else.They have to be get rifdden of from power.Otherwise there won't be any change.They should have been all kicked away after we got independence.Even a just maharajah would have ruled India with much justice and equality than these corpses.
We cannot use the freedom fighters as excuse, you need to realize that britishers have left and now we have these politicians who are trying their best to devide us and rule, they are mum on terrorists, and even the muslims are mum, .... then who are left to save our nation and our deep culture ?
RE:real headless chicken
by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 12:33 AM Permalink
You will be supported in your fight for EQUAL representation and EQUAL opportunities in India.That is all what every citizen needs.Not special treatments.But is it what those bloody monkeys at the Cerntral Govt are doing? They are trying to divide us in as many ways as they can,so they can cling to power fooling Muslims.
RE:RE:real headless chicken
by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
Ek Hindustani,you might know that there are many Muslims who are revered by millions of Hindus such as Maulana,Frontier Gandhi-Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan,many writers from Muslim community,Many actors/actresses from our cinema.We generally don't hate anyone because he/she believes in other ideologies and there is noone to prevent us from liking them too.In the present days,Hindus just worship APJ Kalam.But that is not the way we see from Muslims where Mullahs deciude what the whole Muslim stand has to be regardsing each person or event.That is a bad and shameful trend.Where is your freedom to think for your own,act for your own,independent of the Mullahs who have not touched any other book than Koran?Assimilate more with the Indian mainstream, widen your outlook,help your women folk to rise in status and raise your voice for the rights of an Indian citizen.Then you won't need these perks by the bloody Govt folks.
