Okay for all you people out there who are opposed this view and think that the govt. is throwing NEEDLESS and NOT NEEDED sops to the muslims, here's a simple test. Apply to a job with a muslim name, govt or otherwise. Even though you are well qualified there are so many pockets of discriminations against you that chances are you will end up not getting it. Had equal representation policeis and anti discrimination laws been in effect, you would not see Muslims laging behing and you will not see Muslim ghettoization that is so widespread. The financial standing of an average muslim is next to nothing, (leaving out the creamy layer who have managed someone by working in the gulf or overseas) - which also brought huge amounts of forex to INdia in the 70's, 80's when we did not have liberal economy. Point is sensible people have realized that you cannot move forward having 150 million behind. People have realized this and these are late attempts to rectify teh discrimination based on religion that has crept into the fabric of the system. People are talking about bomb blasts - where is the proof that muslims caused it or planted it?? the moment something happens - eveyrone blames muslims - is that not discriminatory?? What do you have to say about that? Its like you have gathered evidence, judged the case and pronounced an entire people guilty of a crime that 99.9% of them never had anything to do with it. Right was would be to do investigation and find out first. JaiHin
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by Venkat on Sep 01, 2007 12:22 AM Permalink
if iam doing dumb Job today,nobody is responsible for that . I my self is responsible for my situation today. I can't blame others.
If muslims are lagging it is their fault not others fault
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by Vasanth Srinivas on Sep 01, 2007 02:13 AM Permalink
Yes.... you mullahs are working hard to blow the innocent people & you need reservation for that too. Crazy.
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by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 12:24 AM Permalink
Ek Hindustani,if Muslims are biased against in govt jobs or otherwise,that issue has to be corrected.I'm sure a majority of Hindus will also stand with you when they treat you like that.Now,don't think everyone is a fool that Muslims are unreasonably accused of violence,bomb blasts etc.Wherever there is bomb blast,drug dealing,black money dealing,idol theft you will find a Muslim in that in India.98% of cases are settled conclusively in courts with evidences.If it were in a Islamic country,the culprit would have been killed instantly without a trial.
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by Ek Hindustani on Sep 01, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
Agreed! You are right! What im saying is if thoese people had a chance at a decent education and decent job, they would be justl ike the other peace loving honest citizen of INdia, like you and me. Dont you see its a cycle that has to be broken. Education and opporutinities will only do it, not bias, hate and discrimination. Justice Justice Justice. IF you dont have justice when a crime is committed against you, you will have a grudge. So we need to bring justice and equality on the fore front. IN conclusion, you will never be able to get rid of crime, there will always be peopel from all walks of life, all religions and all socities that will commit crimes and robberies. Should that mean that you should treat me and collectively name me, my religion and my poeple as criminals and should that mean that I be treated as a traitor for the acrtions of a few. Think about it. Long Live India. Down with bias and discrimination. Jai Hind.
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by Ek Hindustani on Sep 01, 2007 02:18 AM Permalink
Yes like I said before I and my generation dont have any more than 2-3 kids. so Relax we're not going to over run you. and I we are standing up and asking for our fair share. And im standing up and asking u to stop the bias and hate. Kafeel aur Haneed do naam miley tumko. What about the other millions of muslims living in peace in India. Grow up.
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by Vasanth Srinivas on Sep 01, 2007 02:14 AM Permalink
You cannot expect decent job & decent education when your father lets you in madarassa for your study. If you want decent education, go to school. Who cares?
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by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
I understand that point.There are any number of examples where Muslim youth do hard work and make it big in the society staying in the mainstream.I don't think there is descrimination against Muslims in Govt jobs,but private companies have their own agenda.
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by l g on Sep 01, 2007 02:21 AM Permalink
oh the poor muslims if they are so discriminated then why is it that in UK where indians hindus and pakistani and bangladeshis mulsims face the same discriminations that hindus prosper and muslims are unemployed there is no positive discrimination in favor of hindus in UK then why do they do better than muslims only muslims who are rich in india are those who slave in gulf countries where they do labor work 99% of muslims are not well educated due to sending their children to madrassas where they only learn that the world is flat and jihad is the right way who will employ such ppl
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by Ek Hindustani on Sep 01, 2007 02:21 AM Permalink
Ashmit - Thankfully - there is not widespread discrimination. But there is widespread hate and bias. Finger pointing and ghetoizaation of the vast majority. ur gonna name say about 10 people and think that the majority is enjoying same like they are. What I am saying is there are pockets of discriminiation, systemic failure, discrimination and bias and hate. Check this forum for an example. Does anyone talk anythng else except hate or are they unbiasd? Jai Hind.
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by mpncn mpn on Sep 01, 2007 07:49 AM Permalink
Its their actions made other people to think in that way. U mean the whole world is mad and thats y theyare treated in thatway? They themself made to live like that. If they can not respect other religions...after some bad experiences the others will also be forced think in the same way... The problem is they keep the Quran and Islam on top of everything.The moment smebody say its told by Mohammed ..like this way..like that way...the loose their senses and dance to the tunes of brainless mullahs and clerics. That time the Human in their mind disappear and they see all others as 'saitan' Who has stopped them from going to the schools? Has any school in India refused their kids to give admission? But its for them to understand the fact that, if they act like Human factories for mass production they cant afford to give education to their kids. Or do they want to run away from that responsibility and think that 'bachein Allah ki den hai' and pray to allah to teach their children? The mday they stop sending their children to madrassas their kids can concentrate on teh real school studies and pass out with good merits and get good jobs. Teh problem now is that each kid attend madrassa first then they go to the real school. the young brains of kids gets confused , whether the teaching at madrasa is correct or the school teachings..from their community sorroundings they are forced to believe that whatever Islam tteacher says is the correct one and everything else is bull s
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by Sankalp on Sep 01, 2007 09:30 AM Permalink
When did that widespread hate start? When Hindus realized that Muslims generally don't have any respect for Hinduism,Indian way of life,Hindus are not considered their own long lost brothers even when a majority of your ancestors were once Hindus.With that hatred in your mentality,Muslims have been behaving for a lonmg while,but Hindus didn't pay attention.Now things have gone to such an extent that Muslims have taken up terrorism to destroy India nad thereby Hindus by identifying with the warring barbarians of Middle East.How can you identify with those when your ancestors were Hindus and your culture is essentially that of the subcontinent,not middle east?
