The deal will produce 7% of our energy requirement for the next 40 years, provided India has a foreign policy congruent to US, halt further development of nuclear arsenal, and supports US in isolating new nuclear states(read Iran). its as simple as that... You don't have to be a nuclear scientist to understand this. If this is acceptable, everything is fine. The complete text of the 123 agreement, the Hyde act and the nuclear deal with china is available here.
RE:Know the deal
by Batman on Aug 29, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
Why do u think 7% is less for a population of 1 billion. Its enough to light 70 million houses. Now that sure is not less. And why do u think it cant be more than that. The 7% is just a projection a rough estimate. U neva know it can be far more than that. Y r u always on the pessimist side. y cant u thnk positive.
RE:Know the deal
by george on Aug 29, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
Murphy's laws 1. If anything can go wrong, it will. 2. If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one that will cause the most damage will be the one to go wrong. Corollary: If there is a worse time for something to go wrong, it will happen then. 3. If anything just cannot go wrong, it will anyway. 4. If you perceive that there are four possible ways in which something can go wrong, and circumvent these, then a fifth way, unprepared for, will promptly develop. 5. Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to worse. 6. If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something. 7. Nature always sides with the hidden flaw.
12% is an optimistic estimate and 7% a conservative( sensible?) estimate. I never said 7% is small or negligible. I am just concerned wether its worth the deal.
RE:Know the deal
by Batman on Aug 29, 2007 10:20 PM Permalink
Why are u only thinkin abt the worngs, y nt think abt the rights. why this negative mindset. if nethn goes wromg we have the capacity and the capability to handle it. We hope everthn goes right n will make sure it does bt we are also prepared for the wrongs. don worry abt that. If u everythn will be just wrng thn plz close all ur doors and windows and just neva come outa ur into the world. U have a vary negative mindset george. come on be brave and face the world with confidencce. we all know wrong things will happen. nobody is denying it. but the fear of wrongs will neva let u do right things. life is all about hw u deal with wrongs and how u use the right things.
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by george on Aug 29, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
Well.. Batman.. bravery beyond a limit is called stupidity.. i hope common sense prevails.
RE:Know the deal
by george on Aug 29, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
This argument can go on for ever. If the deal goes through that our economy is going to be dependent on an ambigous deal which if terminated would sent the country into an energy crisis. I bet we will not be looking for alternate sources as long the deal is intact.It is definitley a matter of concern
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by george on Aug 29, 2007 10:48 PM Permalink
I cant belive you cant think of instances where bravery crosses the lmit into stupidity. btw i dont think India should be "afraid" of US
RE:Know the deal
by Batman on Aug 29, 2007 10:55 PM Permalink
why cant u think of instance where bravery surpasses stupidity. if u dont thn u alwaysbe stupid n never be brave as for every step u take u ll think its stupidity n u will nevatake that step. n how does ur words suggest indian sovereignty is compromised. plz be more clear... Give proof of a foreign policy that is congruent to that of the United States. ur next point "and is working with the United States in key foreign policy initiatives related to non-proliferation;" is actualy required. wot do u want nukes everywhere. we need to stop proliferation of nukes. woz wrng wi dat.
RE:Know the deal
by Batman on Aug 29, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
Why?? Shpw me the limits u have set beyond whch bravery is stupidity. Y do u fear the US so much. Look at the chinese they have every possible deal with the US. show me one instance where the chinese have compromised their sovereignity. Do u thnk the chinese are superior to us Indians. Shed ur fear and just work hard and intelligently for indian progress. we are nt a bunch of stupid people to get swayed by America. we know exctly wot we r doin.we know theloopholes. we knw the negative points of this deal. still we also knw how to deal with those in our interests.
RE:Know the deal
by george on Aug 29, 2007 10:44 PM Permalink
The chinese chose "technically" inferior deal which doesnot compromised their sovereignity while Indians chose the "technically" superior deal which compromises their sovereignity.
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by george on Aug 29, 2007 10:50 PM Permalink
(B) the country has a functioning and uninterrupted democratic system of government, has a foreign policy that is congruent to that of the United States, and is working with the United States in key foreign policy initiatives related to non-proliferation;
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by gregory naik on Aug 30, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
the deal is worth it especially after looking at the energy crisis that we are facing back at home, the policy is n ot dead end, only thing US will do is ask back all the materials and technology that they have provided, so what the problem we can give it back if any circistances of that sort arise. Make the deal use the material as long as we think we are not dominated no one can dominate us we are not that small or under developed and US needs us. Accept the deal....
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by george on Aug 30, 2007 07:34 AM Permalink
@ Batman You are the one who is making assumtions. You are the one who said "The Hyde Act is a cosmetic effect to shut the mouths of the Non Proliferation hawks in Washington who vehemently oppose this deal. ". Thats what is an assumtion All what i have said is based on the "technicality" of the "text" in hyde act. Its not driven by fear,it driven by common sense.
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by george on Aug 30, 2007 07:36 AM Permalink
and ofcourse.. the fact that i have not attcked you personally doesnt mean you can continue to call me names.
