RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
Thats my point... No one can claim to be a believer or call anyone else a Non-Believer...
Only Allah will decide that...So if any Muslim thinks that Allah considers him a believer, think again. Humans should not decide that.
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by on Aug 28, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
Arggh .. the religion of peace seems too horrific with detail descrptions of death. Faith should teach you how to live and let live. God knows how many people will be killed before this horrific religion will cease to exist.
RE:RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 06:42 PM Permalink
The concept of heaven in Islam is similar to that found in Judaism and Christianity. The Qur'an contains many references to an afterlife in Eden for those who do good deeds. Heaven itself is commonly described in the Qu'ran in verse 35 of Surah Al-Ra%u2019d: "The parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised! Beneath it flow rivers. Perpetual is the fruits thereof and the shade therein. Such is the End of the Righteous; and the end of the unbelievers is the Fire, wherein a person dwells forever." Since Islam rejects the concept of original sin, Muslims believe that all human beings are born pure and will naturally turn to God, but it is their environment and lack of will power which influences them to choose ungodly ways of life. In Islam, therefore, a child who dies automatically goes to heaven, regardless of the religion of his or her parents. The highest level of heaven is Firdaws (%u0641%u0631%u062F%u0648%u0633)- Pardis (%u067E%u0631%u062F%u06CC%u0633), which is where the prophets, the martyrs and the most truthful and pious people will dwell.[12]
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by on Aug 28, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
Forget about such trivial things as to which religion describes heaven more beautifully than others.
The base of any religion should be to show people how to live life more beautifully and let others live simulateneously.
It is surprising people follow this religion of hatred.
If one endorses hatered then it is human nature to hate that person too. Simply put if you preach hatred you will be hated too.
RE:RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 06:59 PM Permalink
i too agree with most of ur statements and alos grateful to ur very polite and unbiased opinions in the land of buddha only people like u are saving grace for us mulsims u seem to have a human heart unlike so many reduiff readers and togadias amogst us MAY UR TRIBE INCREASE I SHALL NOT DEABTE WITH U REGARDING TEMPLES AND PANDISTS OF COURSE AYODHA BEING RAMJI S BIRTH PLACE RAM TEMPLES ARE A MUST THERE BUT NOT WITH KILLINGS OR RIOTS EVEN MARYADA PURSHOTTAM RAMJI WOULD HAVE CONDEMMED THIS
HE TOOK ARMS AGAISNT VALI WITH HELP OF SUGREEV AND KILLED VALI THE ELDER BROTEHR OF SUGREEV AND ALSO KILLED RAVANA WHO WAS SHIVA DEVOTEEE BUT HE DID THIS FOR SAKE OF DHARMA ND JUSTICE SIMILLARLY MOHAMMED TOOK SWORD FOR SAME REASONS SUPREME COURT HAD PUT A STAY ON THE DISPUTED STRUCTURE BUT WHY WAS LAW BROKEN BY RSS AND VHP AREENT VHP BREAKERS OF LAW SO WOULD U CALL AL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED AND HELPED DEMOLITION AS UNLAWFUL CITIZENS AND THUS CRIMINALS OF INDIAN LAW NO U WOULD NOT U WOULD JUSTIFY AS SAYING IT WAS A REVENGE OF BABUR ETC BUT LAW IS LAW RIGHT BUT WE MUSLIMS ARE APPELAING TO U R CONSCINCE PROTECT US AND THUS PROTECT ALL OF INDIAas u seem to be very kind soul if u read the history of mohammed u will see the kindest soul who ever steped on this earth some muslims are evil mohammed is the kindest soul he forgave a person who killed his uncle and ate the liv
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by Ashwin Reddy on Aug 28, 2007 07:28 PM Permalink
Masood, no one was killed in Ayodhya. Its the bomb blasts that happened in Mumbai that claimed lives. As for the Temple, I am a moderate Hindu and dont care a bit about Temples. But Babur built his mosque there just to hurt Hindu sentiments. And if u r so fair minded, why didnt the Muslims give the Temple site up and relocate their Mosque, as everyone knew that site was where Rama was born. How would u feel if there is a temple built after breaking ur Kaaba Stone? I never had any Animosity towards Muslims. But I do have a problem with ppl saying that they are Muslims first and Indians later. Now that will mean that u will suppot Pakistan in destabilising India and I will definitely not accept that.
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:37 PM Permalink
people fled from ayodha in terror before it was attacked by 100 and thousands of well educated and elite hindu youth mumbai riots did happen before blasts u can deny that as u always do deny that hindus never ever killed muslims since 1947 deny it and pamper ur ego truth is suppressed by u all we shall try to relocate our mosque if we were given peace but how can we negiotte under a gun
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 06:58 PM Permalink
too agree with most of ur statements and alos grateful to ur very polite and unbiased opinions in the land of buddha only people like u are saving grace for us mulsims u seem to have a human heart unlike so many reduiff readers and togadias amogst us MAY UR TRIBE INCREASE I SHALL NOT DEABTE WITH U REGARDING TEMPLES AND PANDISTS OF COURSE AYODHA BEING RAMJI S BIRTH PLACE RAM TEMPLES ARE A MUST THERE BUT NOT WITH KILLINGS OR RIOTS EVEN MARYADA PURSHOTTAM RAMJI WOULD HAVE CONDEMMED THIS
HE TOOK ARMS AGAISNT VALI WITH HELP OF SUGREEV AND KILLED VALI THE ELDER BROTEHR OF SUGREEV AND ALSO KILLED RAVANA WHO WAS SHIVA DEVOTEEE BUT HE DID THIS FOR SAKE OF DHARMA ND JUSTICE SIMILLARLY MOHAMMED TOOK SWORD FOR SAME REASONS SUPREME COURT HAD PUT A STAY ON THE DISPUTED STRUCTURE BUT WHY WAS LAW BROKEN BY RSS AND VHP AREENT VHP BREAKERS OF LAW SO WOULD U CALL AL THOSE WHO SUPPORTED AND HELPED DEMOLITION AS UNLAWFUL CITIZENS AND THUS CRIMINALS OF INDIAN LAW NO U WOULD NOT U WOULD JUSTIFY AS SAYING IT WAS A REVENGE OF BABUR ETC BUT LAW IS LAW RIGHT BUT WE MUSLIMS ARE APPELAING TO U R CONSCINCE PROTECT US AND THUS PROTECT ALL OF INDIAas u seem to be very kind soul if u read the history of mohammed u will see the kindest soul who ever steped on this earth some muslims are evil mohammed is the kindest soul he forgave a person who killed his uncle and ate the liv
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
It depends what verses of the Quran you recite...The Quran talks about punishment and also the fruits of heaven...Why don't my friends talk about that...
RE:RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 07:00 PM Permalink
I AM INDIAN VERY FAR FROM TAMIL NADU BUT CLOSE AT HEART TO RED FORT AND QUTB MINAR AND TAJ WHICH BY THE WAY ARE BUILT BY MOGULS INVADERS AND STILL WE HOIST OUR FLAG THERE WITH PRIDE OUR MUSLIM CULTURE IS AS TALL AS QUTB AS BEAUTIFUL AS TAJ ADN AS STRONG AND RESLIENT AS RED FORT ALL BIASED OPNIONS WOULD NOT DAMAGE OUR BELOVED ASSCOSTIONS WITH THESE HISTORY OF OURS AND U ALSO SING SARE JAHAN SE ACCHA WRITTEN BY A MUSLIM ISLAMIC PPOET SIR IQBAL
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by masood ahmed on Aug 28, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
THANKS SIR I APPEAL TO SANTAN DHARMA TO HAVE MERCY AND LOVE TOWARDS US MUSLIMS WE R NOT ALL BAD ADN NOTALL THAT BAD AS WE R MADE OUT TO BE LET US LIVE IN YOUR COUNTRY AS HUMANS WITH RESPECT ADN JOBS LET US ALL CONTRIBUTE AS SANIAS MIRZAS AND IRFAN PATHSNA AND ZAHEER KHANS AND APJ KALAMS AND TIPU SULTAN AND SRK AND ALL GREAT MUSLIMS ACTORS AND PLAYERS OF HOCKEY AND FOORTBALL WHO BROUGHT LAURELS TO INDIA LIKE MD SHAHID OF HOCKEY SYED MODI OF BADMINTON APJ IN ROCKETS AND NUCLAER ADN SANIA AND IRFAN ADN MD AZHARUDDIN AND PATAUDI
RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by ABCD on Aug 28, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
why u dont try to become like them, rather than pleading for mercy...do it & show. though muslims they love india, and that is the reason they r getting so much respect from each indian. rather than saying islam u say indian, there is no problem in saying tht ur indian & ur doing for india. there is no religion in the world the first priority is nationality. if we keep on fighting for hinduism & islam, there will be a day when even bangladesh will invade us. fight against pakistan, bangladesh,china, afganistan rather than fighting against ourselves
RE:RE:RE:THE RELIGION OF PEACE
by imran patel on Aug 28, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
You can read both...It is fine in Islam. I read the Bible as well...What you believe is what is important to Allah.
