Every person rises to the level of his or her incompetence.Every nation rises to level of her stupidity.
Its been only sixty years since you got rid of the foreign domination and now you want to put the clock back.Its same old wine packaged in a new bottle.
Lets assume you set up civilian nuclear plants worth 20 bilion US dollars.Now US wants you to follow her,unreasonable,immoral position or wants to aid in some war with men or material or wants to bomb inside India some alleged 'terrorist ' targets ,as it just happened to Pakistan.
What India is going to do ?
India would not be in a position to say 'no' because US would undoubtedly recite provisions of Hyde Act and would want you to dismantle your nuclear thing.India would have two choices either follow US Policy or lose 20 billion dollars investment and face a major upheaval.
In essence,India is just setting herself up for coercion,exploitation just for a fistful of dollars.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by bigindiacanvas on Aug 23, 2007 02:43 AM Permalink
DOnt u worry you paki. India with 150 billion dollar foreign exchange reserve can afford to writeoff the measly 20 billion dollars if it comes to that with any hesitation.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by james on Aug 23, 2007 12:48 AM Permalink
There is no wrong in going behind usa.It is time for us to develop our country and not to sit idle and talk rubbish as what left is doing now.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 23, 2007 01:13 AM Permalink
GET LOST, EVERYONE KNOWS ONLY CHINESE COMMUNIST AGENTS & JEHADI FUNDAMENTALIST ARE AGAINST THE AMERICAN ALIIANCE.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by vikas sethi on Aug 23, 2007 12:50 AM Permalink
Jehan Mir, u have revealed ur Paki roots. For ur info, Pak took money from US to spend on luxuries.It is abankrupt country surviving on US or western props. India is taking technology from US and in years to come, will not only master this tech but will better it. The US is not dependent on Pak hence uses it like a condom. US has business interests in India &We r actually increasing the costs for US.Indo US Deal is not a 1 way street.
Besides, Nuclear energy is one aspect.This deal allows India to export reactors, Space research and development increases as India is gets dual use tech, denied to it for 30 years. Without this tech, we developed to the present extent. With this tech, we will grow by leaps and bounds. This deal benefits India in agriculture, biosciences and medicine. it is about increasing the shelf life of a product through irradiation technology. It is about sharing the technology of the developed nations, which was denied to us for 60 years. It is about New India.
There is a difference ina beggar borrowing money & a country entering a deal with another country on equal footing.US is also dependent on India for many things. So costs of imposing sanctions on India will effect US too. NPT is an international treaty & all countries comply these incld. Russia/china.U must realise that the world cannot change laws just to accomodate India. Yet this is precisely what is being done with NDeal.It favors India even when we hv not signed NPT. Yis ur ass burning?
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by mr on Aug 23, 2007 12:56 AM Permalink
We keep calm when other proliferated & made the NPT weaker, we also got lot of tension, but saved our temptation & got rewards now. These painful sanctions days some how gone. thanks.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by vikas sethi on Aug 23, 2007 01:02 AM Permalink
We r doing it. And we have not asked for ur suggestions. Wondering what is bothering U.By the way,for ur info, even China has a similar deal with US but is 40% inferior to the Indian deal.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by mr on Aug 23, 2007 01:09 AM Permalink
If true, consider that as great. If not, try to achieve like Nuclear Weapon State, Permanent Seat etc & try to get a permanent seat w/ Veto & try to conduct a Olympics & get trillion dollars bank balance.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by vikas sethi on Aug 23, 2007 01:19 AM Permalink
Rome was not built in a day. So the permanent seat in US & other benefits will come in due course.China signed the Ndeal with US in 1985. We r just entering the deal. See India in 10yrs time.
As regards Nuclear Weapon State, we r already a defacto Nuclear Weapon State with advanced technology.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by Anil Kumar on Aug 23, 2007 01:55 AM Permalink
i do see a clever argument but you are totally wornge!!India needs 3 things for its economy,inductry,jobs,poverty elimination in rural areas..those are power ,power and power,now with this climate change debate,india needs clean power...THE ONLY SOLUTION IS NUCLEAR POWER,YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT..but USA is the super power and once USA helps India to get through IAEA and NSG(45 countries have to approve,who else apart from USA can do that),the India can buy nuclear fuel and technology fron USA,FRANCE,Russia etc.60 years we were denied this technology and power.
So what is your problem man..yes if somebody gives me power to reduce our problems, FDI,jobs by out sourcing, international influence,TAKING HUNDREDS OF IMMIGRANTS to their country(even our own Haneef wants to go back to australia after all the issues) and offer stratergic arms to counter hostile neighbours the n i will make friends with them and ABOVE ALL FIGHTING FANATIC ISLAMIC TERRORISAM.in this case its USA.I support all the governments who are for this friendship like my fellow majority indians,There is nothing to be ashamed of Indo-USA friendship!!Iam proud of that!!
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by mr on Aug 23, 2007 12:26 AM Permalink
paki's like you, will think like their behavior, they made in the past giving trouble to India.
RE:RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by mr on Aug 23, 2007 12:58 AM Permalink
So, who you are telling they already did suicide? Is it your guys policy problem?
RE:RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by Final Analysis on Aug 23, 2007 01:28 AM Permalink
Mr Paki take your inbred brethren and go and drown into the Arabian Sea and let India be one again.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by vikas sethi on Aug 23, 2007 01:31 AM Permalink
Jehan Mir lives in US, signs into an Indian web portal and posts anti US and anti Indian graffiti.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by Batman on Aug 23, 2007 01:20 AM Permalink
If we do not get this deal we ll spend another 10 years in the dark without electricity till we have the technology to generate power by using Thorium. We still do not have the final tech to generate power through these Fast Breeder Reactors. We should take this deal to generate power and speed up the research on fast breeder reactors so that as soon as we have the production capabalities using thorium based technology we can just stop importing uranium. But right now we need Uranium based tech so that we get power and we are nt left behind and go back to the dark ages... and yah this deal is only civilian so no need to worry abt military nuclear instalations. n we are free to test nuclear weapons. the Hyde Act is just a cosmetic effect by the US government to shut the mouths of the Non proliferation hawks in washington who are opposing this deal tooth n nail... The US understand it has no leverage to stop India from testing weapons and it dosnt want to risk billions of dollars of investment by imposing nay sanctions. remember 1998 aftre the tests the imposed sanctions but had to bite the dust and remove sanctions after realizing it was their industries that were suffering.. so be cool and just use this deal to the maximum and do not let the commies Headless Chickens take India back to the dark ages.
RE:Happy Days Are Here Again
by Batman on Aug 23, 2007 01:19 AM Permalink
Only 2 nations in the whole world are opposing this Indo US nuclear deal, China and Pakistan.... China has the Most Favored NAtion status with the US and opposes the same status for India. China has got a similar nuclear deal with the US bt opposes the deal with India... Jyoiti Basu of CPM protested against Indian defence againt chinese invasion of india in 1962 and was jailed by Nehru for anti India activities. Basu went on to become the CM of bengal. Commies never condemn Chinese claim of arunachal Pradesh whn the people themselves want top be part of India.. CPM opposes Indian nuclear progress bt has no problems with Chinas nuclear arming of pakistan whch are targeted towards India and supports iranian nuclear program. The communists oppose ndustrialiazation in India and went on killing 100's of poor farmers in Singur and Nandigram tryin to grab farmers fertile land for setting up industries. Commies are ruling bengal for more than 30 years now and have reduced bengal from being the finest to being the poorest.. Only big industry in commie ruled states bangal and kerala are trade unions and their number one product is strikes and bandh. Commies vociferously opposed introduction of computers by rajiv gandhi, commies cald computers as evil and against national interest. Commies neva condemned chinese invasion of India in 1962. Commies do not recognize aksai chin in kashmir as part of india. And yes the commies got a new name now "Headless Chickens and Spineless Morons".