There are pros and cons in signing the 123 Agreement with US but the developments going on with lefts after their threat to withdraw is not a good sign for India.What it indicates the parliamentary system in India is so weak that for a mere topic a running GOVT can fall anytime.This is also a bad sign for any future coalition GOVT in India.All important National and Foreign policies to be taken should be discussed and voted in Parliament itself and decided that they can be implemented or not.If its defeated there its okay.Had this 123 agreement defeated in US Congress there wouldn't have been any problem for Bush govt there as whats happening here in India.let the Parliament decide.But in India its a prestige issue for all the Govt in power.Let the Parliament discuss this matter and should have power to make it through and defeat it.This UPA Govt is very weak but India is not at all prepared for an election right now.It will have another hung Parliament and all the political parties know about it.Now it has become a prestige issue for Dr.Manmohan Singh,who somedays back dared lefts to withdraw support,and his Madam Sonia Gandhi to play it safe.There can be a "you win we win situation" for both left and UPA but this 123 deal will be affected.US is playing it safe and watching the developments but they are bound with their foreign policy.They will safeguard their interest first whether its India or any other country.Its really a bad luck for India.
RE:Will UPA GOVT Fall ?
by India Fan on Aug 19, 2007 07:30 PM Permalink
It was dumb to issue a dare to people who are contributing almost 20% of MP's to constitute a majority.
RE:RE:Will UPA GOVT Fall ?
by jesus dn on Aug 19, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
The question is what role are we(Indians) want to play towards Americans. Do we want to become friends(on equal terms and respectable, not being silent always, but questioning things at times)or we want to silent follower(like a slave follows its masters)? India for years have the traditions where the young (mostly females)didnt have the rights(culture) of questioning the elders in the family, followers of Gandhi hardly questioned him, blind following of leaders was the norm. Indians even today dislike making questions or objections to popular beliefs. We think it smart to allay with the flow. Americans on the other hands encourages debates, they questions and try to convince them in and out. So when the left are raising questions on 123, many of us getting furious coz we dont like people question us. Why can India have open debates on TV, on university campus, on senate where Sonia, Karat, Advani, Mayawati, etc come and have healthy debate and put forward their points in support and against this treaty ? Why cant we read the treaty ? Why can the Indian nuclear scientists debate ? Why cant Amrtya Sen on one side and Dr.Bhgwati on another side debate? Debating, questioning is healthy sign, it will enrich democracy. All we do is quarrelling mostly. When we dont have anything constructive to speak we disrupts others. We should appreciate left for raising issues, they may be wrong but they have the right to question. We shouldnt negatively criticise them but listen and the best b
RE:RE:RE:Will UPA GOVT Fall ?
by jesus dn on Aug 19, 2007 09:37 PM Permalink
the best brains from capitalist world should convince the so called hated commies.
Now though its a fashion to blame the left, bjp or any for us. We must realise capitalism alone cant solve all problems of society. Socialism alone cant solve all either. Both has some good points, some bad points. 40 years of socialism may nt be bad but it was in the wrong hands. Neheru was a capitalist agent with a socialist mask. Similarly a hardcore capitalist country like USA has far more sensitive attitudes towards the poor and have nts.Their progress is mostly inclusive not exclusive. Warrent Buffet can make huge money with the help of capitalist systems, thats nothing wrong, in fact great but he also can donate a huge chunk for social cause. Having the ability to earn money is one thing and luxury beyond limit is another thing. No matter how much progress we make, Indian bussiness tycoons are far behind to match their us counterparts. Philanthropy is big part of us society. We pick the wrong stuffs easily but we hardly bother to pick the brighter sides of capitalist systems, we spend our energy in blaming the communists. India needs both capitalist parties like cong,bjp and parties of poor like cpm, cpi etc. It will always keeps things in balance till we evolve into mature and sensitive capitalist society.
