Firstly, we can build our new reactors without US intervention. Secondly, we can buy nuclear fuel from US or any other country. Thirdly, even if US takes steps to withdraw its fuel supply for whatever reasons, they can't stop supply from other countries like Russia. Fourthly, nuclear test is not the worst thing to happen to the treaty. As long as it happens under exceptional circumstances and keeping US diplomats in confidence, I don't see any problem (although US never admit this officially because of their own compulsions). Al they can do is create a pressure. The worst thing to happen to the treaty is act like a BAD boys. E.g if we export technology to a rogue state or say if we use the same material for nuclear weapons that is supposed to be used for nuclear reactors. We have to make sure we keep our image CLEAN. We can still use thorium supplies in our own country. US couldn't do much economic sanctions after nuclear tests. after 10-15 years, US business will become so much reliant on Indian businesses and Indian market that they won't be able to afford any sanctions in future. Lastly, whenever such major decisions (nuclear tests) are done, any govt has to consider all consequences and how to handle the internation pressure whether the treaty is there or not. If India really needs such tests under exceptional circumstances nobody can stop us. The only thing is we have to be prepared for consequences. Why are we making fuss about it?
RE:Dr. Singh is correct
by sanjeev sharma on Aug 16, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
Dear Abhay, it is not such a clean simple theory as u have explained. It is totally other way round, the moment US takes steps to withdraw , we will have to return all the crucial equipments, technology and knowhow and it is a one year process, during which all our industries dependent on this energy will die. As a consequent we will always be blackmailed by US to act as per there wishes.
RE:Dr. Singh is correct
by my message on Aug 16, 2007 04:59 PM Permalink
You are absolutely right.
Besides, who decides if we are "CLEAN"??? If the US wishes to take a unilateral decision a few years down the line, who is to stop them and what will be the plan of action from India?? Any clarity from the Govt on these points????
RE:Dr. Singh is correct
by Abhay T on Aug 16, 2007 05:33 PM Permalink
If your arguments are true they can do it even now and even withou the TREATY! These arguments similar arguments were used for foreign investment in India. But without such economic benefits, India can't solve infrastructure problems and at the same time US can't afford to ignore India's importance worldwide. If every other country thinks India is not "CLEAN" then India will be in trouble like Pakistan. If only US thinks so, it won't make much difference because India can buy supplies from other states. They put economic sanctions on us but it didn't make much difference. In the same period, economic liberalisation allowed FDI into India. More importantly India too have its own resources to handle such pressures with or without treaty. The whole point is about technological and economic benefits and not about nuclear tests.
RE:RE:Dr. Singh is correct
by Abhay T on Aug 16, 2007 05:37 PM Permalink
If your arguments are true they can do it even now and even withou the TREATY! These arguments similar arguments were used for foreign investment in India. But without such economic benefits, India can't solve infrastructure problems and at the same time US can't afford to ignore India's importance worldwide. If every other country thinks India is not "CLEAN" then India will be in trouble like Pakistan. If only US thinks so, it won't make much difference because India can buy supplies from other states. They put economic sanctions on us but it didn't make much difference. In the same period, economic liberalisation allowed FDI into India. More importantly India too have its own resources to handle such pressures with or without treaty. The whole point is about technological and economic benefits and not about nuclear tests
RE:Dr. Singh is correct
by hiral joshi on Aug 16, 2007 05:03 PM Permalink
Have you any idea of the measure of the consequences? If we can build our new reactors why do we need US-technology?, If we can buy fuel from Russia, Kazakhstan etc, why do we enter into the deal and buy from imposing suppliers like Australia, Canada and USA? If we do N-test why should we inform or take US into confidence? Are we soverign country or a remote state of USA? Why do we need to prove our clean image to USA? Are they our boss? Are the responsible for the existance of India? Why do we knelt to USA? Your arguements are self-contradictory and infact supporting "not to sign" the deal.
RE:RE:Dr. Singh is correct
by Abhay T on Aug 16, 2007 05:45 PM Permalink
That's because once US accepts India's position, other countries will follow and India gets diplomatic advantage of getting recognition of a nuclear state. Once this happens other countries will start suppliing fuel to India as well. But this is irreversible process. They won't withdraw supplies just because US thinks otherwise. They will only consider their own position. So, India has to only make sure it doesn't do something that's completely unacceptable to entire world like passing the technology to a rogue state.
RE:Dr. Singh is correct
by hiral joshi on Aug 16, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
If we agree with all of your arguements it indicates that infact we dont need a deal or deal or no deal we wont have any difference. Can you elaborate with your vast knowledge, how fast we shall start getting power?
