people who post messages here in perfect english think that they are intellectuals in have a good "hand" in english...
it is the slavish mentality of indians that we are licking the leftovers of the british raj... justice, administration, constitution are all modelled based on the british way...
and for all those who carp that english is an essential skill know that... people in europe have scant respect for the english (the language as well as the people)...
history cannot be undone... let us all learn sanskrit which is our indigenous language... english can be a byproduct.... for others to deal with us...
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by Cape Comorin on Aug 14, 2007 03:11 PM Permalink
Language is knowledge. Whatever language it may be. Learning a new language makes a man intellectual for he/she gets the ability to study the books written in that language and also finds it easy to understand the culture of the people who speak that language. British raj was required for India. Because of British (I do not deny that they have done some atrocities and looting) we realise that customs like sati and untouchability are crimes and immoral. People who are fluent in a language are respected in the world. It is not a slavish mentality to learn English. People learn English because it is an international language. Even Chinese have started learning English. Indians are preferred in US,UK and other countries because of their knowledge in English. Ironically you are advising to give preference to sanskrit, an outdated language. This is the problem with brahmins. They advise other people not to learn anything which is of foreign origin while enjoying life in US and Europe.
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by Seshadri on Aug 14, 2007 03:32 PM Permalink
Language is a means not the end...
The ability of a man is neither impaired nor upgraded by a language per se. Language is a tool by which one can express better; even then there are various factors like culture, geography etc.
It is anyone's liberty now to accredit the British for the abolition of superstitions that were prevalent in India. One cannot deny that these practices might have slowly perished even without the British. Anyway these are not subjects that can be explained in a small forum like this.
About English being an international language, I would put it thus: PEOPLE LEARNT ENGLISH AND HENCE IT IS AN INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE.
In the same breath : SANSKRIT IS NOT LEARNT AND HENCE WE HAVE MADE IT AN OUTDATED LANGUAGE.
And what happened to your civilized senses when you compare advocating Sanskrit to Brahmins. I am a Brahmin and I learnt english as all of us did. But I also know Tamil and Hindi and amd learning Sanskrit for the wonders it holds.
Did your sweet knowledge of English tell you that a statement from an individual can be utilised to make a sweeping comment on a whole community?
Did I ever mention not to learn English?
So "Cape Comorin" or whoever you are... know that knowledge is unblemishable... languages cannot taint it...
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by Seshadri on Aug 14, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
And furthermore I pity you for your depraved mentality which makes you speak thus: "This is the problem with brahmins. They advise other people not to learn anything which is of foreign origin while enjoying life in US and Europe"
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by Cape Comorin on Aug 14, 2007 03:54 PM Permalink
Ability to understand the culture and literature requires knowledge in a particular language. People are learning English. Why? It is bread-winner for many. NRIs are the best examples. Why is sanskrit not learnt? Because one community proclaimed that it is only their property. It is not my depraved mentality to say that brahmins befooled (now tring to befool) others. It is the fact.
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by Seshadri on Aug 14, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
You are free to view your perception...
I would not prolong this discussion, but I dont remember reading anything to the effect that Sanskrit is the property of Brahmins or that they had benefitted by fooling others.
It is the greed, lust and jealousy of the "others" that makes them think so. You are not Mr. Know - all to speak facts, and also your comments would not alter the truth.
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by Cape Comorin on Aug 14, 2007 05:50 PM Permalink
I know how much wisdom and knowledge your forefathers had. They did nothing except cheating the kings in the name of religion to fill their stomach, harassing people in the name of caste to satisfy their sadistic feeling, spreading superstitions and myths among people. You shold be proud of those wicked species. If your 'intelligent' forefathers live today they can't cheat us because we are educated. They will surely commit suicide because they can't tolerate non-brahmins excel in all the fields.
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by Cape Comorin on Aug 14, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
I know you can't prolong this discussion. You have no points to discuss. Your conscience (if you have one) must be telling you that what your forefathers did were wrong. It is not lust or jealous, it is pain that brahmins made that think us like that.