Castism existed along with the hindu religion. Even before Congress came into existance. You cant blame congress for that. Congress only supporting the underprevilaged low caste to develop into the main stream society by giving them reservations.
And about religion, BJP is the first and only political party which used religion for vote banks but failed. They're still using this tool to come into power .
Please dont blame congress for everything. Look at the histroy and you'll find India experienced economic growth only during Congress rule at center.
Please dont fall into the traps of fake patriotist like BJP. Their main agenda is to build Ram mandir where as Congress strive hard to make India a economic super power .
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by akash on Aug 10, 2007 11:51 PM Permalink
I think u hv started personal comments and for ur information i am a person from a small village just telling u that remove the veil of ignorance from ur eyes which have been put by oppresing political ideology spread by some parties and rem India resides in villages
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by pat on Aug 10, 2007 11:59 PM Permalink
Every one has sin, Moghuls killed lot of people in the early days. Caste system existed. Now a days the main sin is in the form of fundamentalism, living not in villages, but hiding in forests. The respective Govts should take necessary steps to root out these bad system from the world.
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 11, 2007 12:16 AM Permalink
I'm sorry, its just hard to identify whos who... never meant to say it personal .. but when somebody gives points to my Lord for wrong reasons I take it more personal than someone calling me names, its not coz my religions teaches to me to be like that, its coz I've read Ramayana and the sweet/pure (madhur/amal) relationship between the Devotee and the Lord.
Ok, in Vedic System which existed until 5000 years ago, the four Varnas were based on the Knowledge/ Activities of a person.
It never said that the son of a Brahmana can be called a Brahmana, ... every individual has to undergo 'Brahmacharya' from a qualified Guru and then Learn Vedas and Teach Vedas, Learn how to Worship Lord and Preach the same to people.
If he by chance gets into politics he would be called Kshatriya, ...or if he starts getting into business he'll be called Vaishya, ... if he does none of the above he'll be called a Shoodra.
Every human was expected to have spiritual Inclination otherwise he was considered low among humans, ...no matter who his ancestors were !! ....since Human life is meant for Spiritual Realization according to Vedas,
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by pat on Aug 10, 2007 11:19 PM Permalink
Just an explantion, not arguing. Caste system existed, but Govt. strong measures, it was removed, now even ST (sorry), can work with a Brahmin. But these measures were adopted in only India successfully. See other countries, they still hold the old dirty book & thinking backwards.
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 10, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
Dude Aryan concept is a myth, that has even been removed from the school books ! that was our fake history taught to us by britishes coz the church could not digest the fact that the Hinduism has a undated and rich VEDIC PAST !
Well Caste System is a manipulated Varna system in VEDAS, it was manipulated by few crooks who wanted to devide us and rule !
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by akash on Aug 10, 2007 11:43 PM Permalink
But it is a fact that caste system exists for centuries. U can deny aryans but u cant deny other historical proofs like records of chinese travelers during chandragupta maurya, ramayana ,mahabharta ,the doha of kabir mentioning shudra, tulsi etc
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by pat on Aug 10, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
It was rooted out from the system. Think about something still exists which harm people.
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by akash on Aug 10, 2007 11:31 PM Permalink
The bjp leaders know only to bark like dogs. Can anyone tell why they oppose the Indo-Us nuclear deal. The negotiation for this deal were strted in the Vajpayee govt tenure. The talks b/w jaswant singh and Us seceretry of states were completely centered on this agenda only and before the final deal was to be signed the bjp govt fall in 2004. Now the same bjp is opposing it bcoz it fears tht congress will take the credits. Bjp have no interest in the fact that the deal will benefit India or not. its personal agenda comes before the nation
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by akash on Aug 10, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
U r wrong BJP is so opposed to nuclear deal that it is demanding a vote in parliament for the deal. Just bcoz communist are opposing cant justify the stand os BJP
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 10, 2007 11:58 PM Permalink
What is wrong in Voting??? That is what is Democracy, what if someday a Pakistani is made a PM of India by Cong,.. do you think you want to go with them?? ... how much do you know abt Nuclear Deal... what do you know abt the Environmental impact of this assumed progress??
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by pat on Aug 11, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
Nuclear Deal will save environment, that is true. That was started by BJP & done by COngress. Both govt. has credits. But more credits to those who did lot of works to pursuade them.
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by sudhir on Aug 10, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
Yes casteism existed and hindus have accepted this and taken corrective measures.
But what about other communities.
BJP is a political party. What is wrong if it is pro-Hindu. Lot of parties are pro-muslims.
What is wrong in building RAM mandir. As the majority of this country has no objection to this democratically it is right. India did not go down during the BJP rule. In fact it did very well. Only thing is anti-incubancy called for the fall of BJP.
Fake patriots - I think people who support jehad are traitors.
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 11, 2007 12:21 AM Permalink
I think we Hindus should know our own past ============================== In Vedic System which existed until 5000 years ago, the four Varnas were based on the Knowledge/ Activities of a person.
It never said that the son of a Brahmana can be called a Brahmana, ... every individual has to undergo 'Brahmacharya' from a qualified Guru and then Learn Vedas and Teach Vedas, Learn how to Worship Lord and Preach the same to people.
If he by chance gets into politics he would be called Kshatriya, ...or if he starts getting into business he'll be called Vaishya, ... if he does none of the above he'll be called a Shoodra.
Every human was expected to have spiritual Inclination otherwise he was considered low among humans, ...no matter who his ancestors were !! ....since Human life is meant for Spiritual Realization according to Vedas, ==========================
Well the present Caste System was the outcome of politicians and crooks who engaged in dividing people to rule them in present Kali Yuga,... well I might sound too scripturistic .. but it really made sense to me after I read it couple of times and discussing with few learned men on the Vedas.
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 11, 2007 12:57 AM Permalink
Any faith on this earth is a fallout of Vedic system. There was nothing called religion on this earth, having said that Vedic System is not Religion, it is simply a way of life on earth. You will need real knowledge of scripture to talk to me.
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 11, 2007 01:05 AM Permalink
"Castism was a product of brahmins and it was the political parties or the govt who abolished the system. "
Well I'm not talking of todays political parties, yes it was due to crooks who started calling themselves brahmins, though unqualified through the Vedic System, though their activities were worst than Shoodras of the Vedic System,... it is the quality of a human being in this age in general to cheat, you cannot help it. Thats why I said the Vedic system existed 5000 years ago, there are real real Brahmins even now, but not in good number.
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by pat on Aug 10, 2007 10:44 PM Permalink
Nothing like this grape is great, that grape is sour. All parties are good. If you feel COgrass will do better you vote for that. Also, don't tell Vajpayee as in-efficient.
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by umesh pardeshi on Aug 10, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
Congress is bull shit because congress party always save the Muslims so that they get their votes. The main example is Terrorist Afsal.
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by umesh pardeshi on Aug 11, 2007 12:18 AM Permalink
Hi Akash, I am not saying that BJP is good but i just want to say that Congress is worst and selfish. And for your knowledge the second example of Congress selfishness is doing good friendship with Pakistan a terrorist country. Kutte ki dum hamesha tedi hi raheti hai....
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by Cool Indian on Aug 11, 2007 02:23 AM Permalink
BJP might have put pressure on court to make the judgement faster and then hanged him during their tenure. Dude its all politics and so never don't think of any party as rastravadi
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 10, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
Dude Aryan concept is a myth, that has even been removed from the school books ! that was our fake history taught to us by britishes coz the church could not digest the fact that the Hinduism has a undated and rich VEDIC PAST !
Well Caste System is a manipulated Varna system in VEDAS, it was manipulated by few crooks who wanted to devide us and rule !
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by Pritish Nagaraj on Aug 10, 2007 10:58 PM Permalink
"Please dont blame congress for everything. Look at the histroy and you'll find India experienced economic growth only during Congress rule at center. "
In India politics does not matter with respect to progress of nation, it is we people who changed India. The soil itself has the capability to produced great minds !
