The Article says that US took the initiative to create Jundullah. See how manipulated US is, thees Jundullah will be coined as Freedom Fighters by the Western Media, until they reach US acheives its goal of dissolving USSR. I still remember the Hollywood Movie Rambo, in which Stallone fights in Afghanistan against Russia, and the Afghan Militants are projected as Freedom Fighters in that Movie, now they are the branded terrorists according to the US specualtive Media.. So its all in the game, whenever you want you can manipulate as you wish.. It does not stop with that, the CIA's list of Branded Terrorists orgs, has Bajrang Dal and RSS in the list. But this message board is full of Karsevaks, you are all branded as Terrorists by US, how do you react about it. You will scream from top to bottom that You are a social organisation, but when you are hindering the growth of Christianity you will be branded as Terrorists. So the speculative game is on, the definition of Terrorist or a Freedom Fighter is wide open...If US wants you can be a Freedom Fighter for Today and on the next day you can be a Terrorist..
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by wajidshaikh mehboob on Apr 18, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
My Dear Brother Sriram, Your Knowledge on Islam is not well versed.Islam comes from the root word Salam which means Peace.How can a religion of Peace permits Unnecessary Killing in the name of Allah.My brother read Quran with understanding avialable in many Languages.I challange to whomsoever to take out any verse from Quran Which speak Unnecessary killing.Speak Logically and with Proof.
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by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
According to Mr. Togadia, the definition of Trishul is one arm is to destroy Mosques, the other arm is to destroy Church and the Central arm is to destroy Atheists.. So this how this Fanatic has understood the meaning of Trishul, should I don't find any difference between a Taliban and this Guy, who is the leader representing Hunduism. Now don't say that Islam only promotes Violence, all the Religions are mis-interpreted for Violence and Hindusim is not an exception... All these stories of Hindus being Peace Loving Parrots is not always true, there are more fanatics in Hinduism than in Islam.. But all these Fantics be a Muslim or Hindu should come to a battle ground and fight, and leave the innocents to live peacefully
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by harifromchennai on Apr 18, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
Mr. Ibrahim, You speak as if you are the spokesperson of jamaat-ud-dawa. And also shown pseudo sympathy on RSS on proscribing it as a terrorist outfit by US while lashing out US for its deeds in the rest of world. Where do you stand? please clarify.
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by kishore on Apr 18, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
Yet an another anti-US Stand now , Come on man , the suituation in the 1980s , US needed an reason to fight the USSR , the jihads needed the ammunition to fight them . The idea is ,it was a business deal which suited both the parties After the fall of USSR , US never needed them , thus the business deal fell through . The so called jihads instead of moving on & try leaving a normal life went cockoo-bananas with their own ideologies . Why in the world are you blaming the US for some loonies who did not have any purpose in their life is beyond me ? For the record I am not pro-US , but I cannot find any reasoning in your theory at all
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by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
If you Like it or Not, please visit the web site of CIA and search for Terrorists organisations in India, you can find Bajrang Dal and RSS in the list. All I am saying is I am ready to accept some Jehadi Orgs are Terrorists by killing innocents, but why dont you accept RSS and Bajrang Dal as Terrorists who rule the country.. "Democratic Terrorists"
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by Sriram Vangal on Apr 18, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Execpt ISLAM, all other muslim organisations are in that list. You can list only 2 of hindu outfits
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by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
Dear Sri Ram, If you steal Rs.100 also you are a thief and if you steal Rs.100,000 also you are a Thief. So don't compare Hindus have only 2 Terrorists Org and Muslims have 10... That doen't make sense
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by SI on Apr 18, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Peeps,Ibrahim,has a point. If you can counter the point,do it,if not,shut your mouth and stop shooting the messenger.
Kishore,"After the fall of USSR , US never needed them , thus the business deal fell through .The so called jihads instead of moving on & try leaving a normal life went cockoo-bananas with their own ideologies"..ahh!Thatz your grudge.They should have actually stopped and 'moved on'when US told them to stop.They should then start to fight only when US say "start".That would be ideal,isn't it?Ths US played a big part in creating the Afghan Frankenstein.Mary Shelly's novel is the perfect analogy for this case.
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by kishore on Apr 18, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Sorry SI (sports illustrated), US did not tell them to start or stop , they only aided them in the rebellion against the Soviet without any prior knowledge of the people they are dealing with . That's the only mistake of the US , for which the whole world is suffering
