I feel the urge to inquire all these great indians here proclaiming they read this splendid journalistic account as a book, and it only verifies what they've known since forever: how morbidly discounted pakistani society is, and how magnificently communal india is; have they read maximum city by suketu mehta?? if india is really that solicitous towards various religions and its an all encompassing society; then how did the massacre in bombay came about, how about gujrat. the book vividly chronicles, how gangs after gangs of shiv-sena influenced hindus burned scores of muslims, and when asked about the sin a muslim committed to suffer a brutality as such, the answer came forth, "his biggest sin was that he was a muslim," even a muslim army major who was bringing food and medicinal assistance towards communities was burned along with his truck, abated by bombay police. Mr. Bal Thackrey publicly idolises Hitler, and have iterated numerously that muslims should be treated just as jews were in Nazi Germany. How come such a hate mongering monster is idolized in bombay?? I belong to karachi, and i know it unequivocally that political parties in karachi when rose against pakistani govt. were unceremoniously helped by Indian govt. specifically Mosad, in whatsoever way needed. I don't intend to claim that pakistani govt. are a group of saints at any imaginable stretch; these are political games played by every country to gain strategic importance, including pakistan, india, afghan, iran, china, russia, and of course usa; sadly bourgeois humans in such games are only merited as ambiguous numbers, that is the depth humanity has desecrated to. Anyway, we all should first look at our own selves, sanctifies our own souls and streets, before pointing our fingers towards others.
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by qwer on Apr 16, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
Irfan, tell me with some facts how are minorities treated in Pakistan better than the minorites being treated in India....you are talking about Gujarat and Mumbai riots..? you think hindus were not massacred during those riots...let me tell you one thing...what news you get or were getting during those days in pakistan was filtered news and not complete facts...does pakistani government have reservation policy for minorities....?? Does pakistani government provide subsidy to minorities for annual pilgimage to their holy places....?? Let me tell you the major difference in the attitude of Pakistani and Indian people...In India, nobody openly asks what is your religion, because the person may get the feeling of belonging to the minority....but same is not the case in Pakistan...that is the level of maturity Indian people have....Pakistan's majority muslim people need to first rise above their religion and accept the fact that there are other holy religions apart from Islam that talk of harmony and tolerance...then talk about the treatment being metted out to minorities in India.....
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by qwer on Apr 16, 2007 02:59 PM Permalink
Irfan for your kind information...visit the following website that talks about terrorism(sorry freedom struggle) being carried out by terrorists(freedom fighters or power grabbers) in Kashmir...
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by Abhik RayChaudhury on Apr 14, 2007 04:56 AM Permalink
Irfan, Your comments are practical. However, regarding the Shiv Sena and RSS and their deeds to our muslim community in India should/needs to be viewed through the glass of history. All these extremist hindu political entities are a knee jerk phenomenon of the centuries old rule by minority, and if you add to that the muslim appeasment by the so called liberals for political purposes, you may be able to see why and how tragedies like Gujarat happens. Even today, almost no one, including the so called secular hindu politicians, talk about the displaced pandits of Kashmir, who were systematically tortured, abused and driven out of their homeland, mostly by the Pakistan backed terrorists and their cronies in the Srinagar valley. It would be wrong to think that this will go unnoticed. While the carnage in Gujarat was happening, no muslim country, including Saudi Arabia and the likes, raise any noise. Any idea why?
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by newage Age on Apr 14, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
Abhik RayChaudhury,
You can very well verify the facts before claiming that RSS is an extremist organization. We are typically product of british education and our great colonial media and definitely lack CRITICAL THINKING abilities. We are just not trained to use our FRONTAL CORTEX effectively.....
If there is one orgnozation in this UNIVERSE which works for Human Good..it is the RSS....
If you donot believe me than go and do some research....ofcourse not through our ENGLISH media....mind you ENGLISH media in India has a official policy not to report yeoman's service done by any Hindu Orgnizaton because they get FUNDS from MISSONARIES abroad.
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by Subba on Apr 14, 2007 04:22 AM Permalink
Irfan,
I dont know much about your claims about Mr. Bal Thackery, but one thing is true, we as Indians, (atleast hindu Indians) what ever internal disputes we have unite against Pakistan (muslims) period. I think it is the same on the other side.
