I too was humiliated by a soldier when I visited Vaishnu Devi temple...so should I also start to demand soldiers should be removed from vaishnu devi temple....we all know this will be sense less....as Vaishnu devi temple will be the first target of militants...
Soldiers are trained to have discipline and maintain those standards...hence we should not be surprised that a soldier humililates someone at the drop of a hat....to maintain peace locals have to bear to follow discipline standards...
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by Golden on Apr 11, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
soldiers and discipline??!! are you kidding. they are only taught to murder and get award for their bravery, even if the mudered person is a weak civilian. if you meet any soldier in train then you will know the real trauma of the kind of the soldier we have in our country. descipline only means to shout YES SIR for them. but when comes the time for respect for age, care for woman (of course not their own), love for child and mercy for weak they are most inhuman person i have ever seen. and while doing this they dont see any race, religion and region so you remember my words when you meet any soldier in your train journey. if you meet the complete bunch of them, then rest assured the joy of your whole journey is spoiled. you will feel difficulty even to come out of your compartment and fetch some water for your kid as the doors are blocked with thier big boxes. they do block even the passage inside the train and talk a little bit to them and you can receive any kind of assault from them. but you must not feel angry, after all they are the great protectors of our land.
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by hello on Apr 11, 2007 10:01 PM Permalink
RE:Locals have to bear the discipline standards of soldiers in return for peace.. by hello on Apr 11, 2007 10:00 PM dEAR (deaf ear) Golden, Listen, the problem in J&K is terrorist operating from foreign soil, to protect that, we need to have some checkup needed. You telling the checkup as a torture or any other way from foreign country & crocodile tears, I understood, you are prying for more innocent people by sending the military out of J&K & give people to militants!!! Let the situation normal, then we think about de-militarization!!!
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by deepak shukla on Apr 11, 2007 09:31 PM Permalink
You r right Mr.Haresh.Those people who point fingers at soldiers should understand the conditions in which our soldiers have to work to safeguard the interests of our country away from their families.Some times such things happen due to frustration,but everyone should understand their feelings and think about soldiers also.
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by haresh talreja on Apr 11, 2007 09:40 PM Permalink
dear goldy....it seems you are not grateful for having secure borders and leading a simple life...or you seem to be an outsider...
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by yadav on Apr 11, 2007 09:42 PM Permalink
Golden, There are some train incidents involving the soldiers. what do u say about the soldiers who fought with Pakistanis in 1948,64 and 71 and 99 Kargil and saved our country. lot of them have died for their motherland. If they are not guarding our borders then where is our safety.?
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by Golden on Apr 11, 2007 09:55 PM Permalink
safety is not acceptable on the cost of humiliation and continuous torture of our own people. it is like Gabbar... gabbar se tumhein sirf ek admi bacha sakta hai, woh sirf gabbar. if i am continuously living like a prisoner then how does it matter if the ruling person over me is india or pakistan. if i am not able to feel my freedom and safty then how does it matter who is oppressing me, india or pakistan. even if you protect me you have to got no right to oppress and harrass me and rob me off my feeling of safety. think with your mind if you have some thinking capacity. i am an engineer, can i take bribe and sell some secrets to my rival company just because i am doing good job for my company, can i harrass my fellow members because i am a good employee to my company. my dear brother situation have changed, unfortunately these armies are still living in the samatwaadi pratha. if the security person of my company misbehaves with me, he will be fired. he cant give logics like you are giving. we all are important in this global arean of duties. we all do our duties in our own area and every body is important. if a kisan doesnt produce grain then will these soldiers (who are so called protecting our borders) survive by eating their bullets and guns? now can a kisaan misbehave with a slodier just because he is producing some thing on which soldier is surving? these are all rubbish. we must accept that today army has gone berserk. it has got power in their hand and they dont give up any chance to use it, be it against out enemies or against ourselves itself.
RE:Locals have to bear the discipline standards of soldiers in return for peace..
by hello on Apr 11, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
dEAR (deaf ear) Golden, Listen, the problem in J&K is terrorist operating from foreign soil, to protect that, we need to have some checkup needed. You telling the checkup as a torture or any other way from foreign country & crocodile tears, I understood, you are prying for more innocent people by sending the military out of J&K & give people to militants!!! Let the situation normal, then we think about de-militarization!!!
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by raj mohan on Apr 11, 2007 10:35 PM Permalink
Dear Golden, I'm agreeing with you... Everybody else saying that Army is predicting people. But you view is they are taking advantage in the name of giving security to people. Well take. But do you think by removing Army from J&K will give you solution... Would you like terrorist from Pak/Chechan to rule J&K. Is that only J&K is the only border of our country, we have other border also, like, Rajasthan, Assam, etc. but why we have problem in J&K only (in the name of Muslim%u2019s) NOT BECAUSE ONLY THERE IS WE HAVE MUSLIMS. IT%u2019S BECAUSE OF PAKISTAN creating a illusion, that they are the savers of MUSLIMS and try to shown the WORLD that there is a problem of HINDU and MUSLIM problem. IF that is true the whole country will be under fire since INDIAN MUSLIMS ARE MORE THEN PAKISTANIS in count. MUSLIMS ARE GOOD PEOPLE. BUT SOME PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE OF COUNTRY TO TAKE THE ADVANDTAE making problem between HINDU & MUSLIM in INDIA.
