Guys please understand that if a category is reserved it does not mean that any tom dick and harry can avail the quota. you need to fulfill certain criteria. For ex. In Tamil nadu we have 69% quota. but the difference in qualifying mark between reserved and general category is just 0.24 marks......
Does this .24 make somebody more superior and somebody less brilliant...no.......
We need to come out of the notion that all reserved category students rae not brilliant.....they are brilliant......
Some of the best colleges and business schools have quotas for more than 4 decades and they have been producing finest minds...
If you say that it divides the society...yes, to certain extent....burt it also helps bridge the gap between the "so called upper caste and the lower one if any.
Finest colleges like IITs, IIMs, anna university and all NITs (RECs)do have reservation and have been good consistently academically and socially...
RE:Reservaion doesn't mean less brilliant
by shyamala shanker on Apr 10, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
Hello in Tamil nadu 87% of population is OBC .so the competition is between OBC's only as OBC's are also part of general.Forward category genarally are staying away as there is really no chance of them getting into Government colleges .Try competing with at thhe national level ya and dont ask for props
RE:Reservaion doesn't mean less brilliant
by edwin on Apr 10, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
if yiu go by your own figure of 87%....do they represent adequately? out of 100 people in a office 80 will of upper caste...there comed inequality...that is what the govt is fixing it......87% needs to come to atleast 50% in education and jobs
RE:Reservaion doesn't mean less brilliant
by gaurang soni on Apr 10, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
The basic question is , If you say that there is only 0.24 marks difference between General Category and reserved category , then why should you have to use quota ?
If the guy is good enough he / she will definately be selected.
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by Manmadhan Pillai on Apr 10, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
Then why should u have reservation. Compete with others and get in the slot. For quite sometime, everybody who is somebody is raising the bogey of reservation, quota etc.etc. The so called forward caste full of economically and socially backward peo9ple. Nobody talks about them. R they not the citizens of this country. Every tom, dick and harry in the political field wants reservation for minorities,and obcs who are now socially and economically well off. Sixty years after independence, thisspoon feeding did not stop. Yes. the politicians require their peice of cake and eat it too at the cost of others. I implore those advocating reservation to stop this hypocracy and give financial helps to the need to come up in the ladder. It is real looting off the so called high castes(only in name and not in reality).
RE:Reservaion doesn't mean less brilliant
by simply on Apr 10, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
The people of so called forward class need to be pushed back, that is why quota is required. Now this question might have appeared into your mind, why to push them? Well the answer is: the same thing (quota)that these bacwards are getting(to some extent) now a days(in the hands of corrupt rulers), you people were getting for thousand of years earlier. I am pointing out the injustice done to these backwards for centuries. They were not allowed inside a school, not allowed to touch a book even. How you raise questions about their welfare. They have quota in educational instituions, you people had that in every feild earlier: e.g. the backwards were not allowed to have any property as only forwards could keep that. If any poor was seen to be having it, the cruel rulers would disown that person from his property or would destroy that. WAS NOT THAT THE RESERVATION ? WAS NOT THAT THE RESERVATION ? WAS NOT THAT THE RESERVATION ?
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by L L on Apr 11, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
Yes simply, that was Reservation. And that reservation affected someone badly. So what do you want today? Revenge? Khoon ke badle khoon? And whose blood? The ones who practised reservation are all dead and gone ages ago, leaving us cursed with their unjust ideology. And that's precisely the demon we are all fighting. The people who made the reservations are all gone and we don't have to carry on the same now. We need to create a better world for us and our children, a more equal world, without nobody being ever asked their caste or creed. If you think reservation will help you take your revenge, you are wrong. You would only be discriminating against yourself more by calling yourself an OBC candidate to avail the benefits you imagine you can get. What is the difference between you and the people who you think did the wrong against you and your forefathers in all these centuries? Let's bury these reservations along with the people who created them and let's live ina n equal world of equal caste. Its possible, if we all think the same.
RE:Reservaion doesn't mean less brilliant
by edwin on Apr 10, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
Mr.illai...you shud know a fact...in tamil nadu there is college or B school called BIm...they will consider u for admissin only if u r a PILLAi... i am the affected party...what do u say for this?
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by L L on Apr 11, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
For this very reason, Mr. Edwin, you should be saying 'No' to reservations. How can you do to others what you yourself hate to have suffered? Tomorrow, somebody else's child would be facing the same, and would feel the same like you do today. How can Reservations ever be a solution to this problem? The only solution is to do away with all discriminations. Treat all equal, and nobody would be hurt.
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by Manmadhan Pillai on Apr 10, 2007 04:43 PM Permalink
I am not from TN, but since you told about the admission to the school/B school, pl tell me the name of the institution where only PILLAIs are getting admission. I shall see to Zthe fact.
