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by ram bharat on Apr 06, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
but before killing these people we should also kill those muslims who are against this country
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by Best Message on Apr 06, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
Dear Ram Bharat, We have to kill all of those who are against this country either they are muslim or Hindu, religion doesn't matter.
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by MADHU prasad shetty on Apr 06, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Abdullaha you are a minority among your Muslim brothers, and if they find you they will not hesitate to kill you. I agree with you, in this context can you go to a site called www.faithfreedom.org if you don't mind.
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by sridhar gorantla on Apr 06, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
Dear abdulla, read below two postings and then tell me if Advani, Modi e.t.c are merely taking revenge for what islamic people did to INDIA or if they were doing it just for the spreading of religion. ALL THE NEGATIVENESS YOU SEE NOW AGAINST ISLAMIC FOLLOWERS IS THE RESULT OF THEIR PAST CRIMES AND NOTHING ELSE.THIS DOESNOT MEAN ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD, I HAVE SEEN VERY GOOD ISLAMIC FOLLOWERS WHO TREAT ALL RELIGIONS AS ONE AND THE SAME AND TREAT RELIGION AS JUST A DIRECTION AND IT BY ITSELF IS NOT THE GOD OR ALLAH OR ALL PERVADING DIVINITY. THERE IS NO EXCEPTION IF ONE COMMITS CRIME IN THE NAME OF RELIGION, BECAUSE AFTERALL, RELIGION IS ONLY A PART OF LIFE, THAT JUST GIVES DIRECTIONS. ONE HAS TO BEAR THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS IRRESPECTIVE OF RELIGION.
1)Muslims & Islam has done more damage to VAST INDIA than anything else BY DIVIDING IT INTO PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH & INDIA IN THE NAME OF RELIGION and now they want to enjoy special treatment. There is no other proof needed to show that we INDIANS are more religious tolerant in the ENTIRE WORLD than any other part of the world. Be it Islamic or Christian populations, but you will never ever see this kind of tolerance, that is shown in INDIA for muslims. YET, MANY MUSLIMS TREAT INDIA AND INDIANS AS KAFIRS E.t.c. and try to have special treatment than rest of INDIANS.
I WOULD SAY ALMOST ALL OF MUSLIMS ARE INFACT KAFIRS, SINCE THE REAL MEANING OF KAFIR IS THAT, ANYONE WHO DOESNOT REALIZE THE ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD OR ALLAH IS THE KAFIR AND ONLY THOSE WHO REALIZE THE UNIVERSAL EXISTENCE OF ONESELF IS THE TRUE MUSLIM or Hindu or Christian or Buddhist e.t.c. HENCE, 99.99% OF MUSLIMS ARE INFACT, KAFIRS, AND IT IS IRONY THAT THEY TREAT OTHERS AS KAFIRS. JUST BY READING A BOOK OR JUST BY MAINTAINING EXTERNAL OR VISIBLE SIGNS OF BELONGING TO A GROUP OR RELIGION DOESNOT MEAN ANYTHING. THIS IS THE TRUTH OF KAFIR IN ISLAM.
MOST OF ISLAMIC TEACHING HAVE BEEN ADULTERATED DUE TO LACK OF PROPER MONITORING OF THE ISLAMIC PEOPLE AND MOST OF THE ISLAMIC PEOPLE HAVE CONCNTRATED ON CONVERTING OTHERS TO ISLAM, RATHER THAN THEY THEMSELVES TRY TO FIND GOD OR ALLAH OR REALIZE ALL PERVADING DIVINITY FIRST AND THEN LEAD OTHERS. DUE TO THIS APPROACH, ISLAMIC FOLLOWERS NOW ENDED UP LOOSING UP MOST INHERENT DETAILS OF WHAT IS SAID IN ISLAM. THIS SI WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED IN HINDUISM AFTER THE VEDIC TIMES, WHERE BRAHMINS HAVE MISUSED THEIR POWER AND THE TRUST OF THE OTHERS IN THE SOCIETY TO THEIR SELFISHNESS AND LOST MAJORITY OF THE VEDIC TEACHINGS INHERENT MEANINGS.
AS FAR AS I COULD UNDERSTAND, ALL WORLDS SAINTS OF THAT STATURE WHO HAD REALIZED THE ALL PERVADING TO THE FULL EXTENT HAD SAID ONE AND THE SAME THING, THOUGH THE WORDS MAY BE DIFFERENT.
2)The Hon High court has given the judgment, and in minutes, Kapil Sibal. a union Minister, criticises the same. Being a senior advoocate, should he feel different, the system permits him to go on appeal,not to criticise the judge. Is it not a fact that since 975 AD, when Md gazhni attacked India, (he attacked 18 times to plunder the Indian wealth), till 22-09-1857 , Delhi was ruled by Muslims. 1857, the first revolt against british started, and they decided to, by supporting Muslims not to agree anything said by Hindus, and sanctioned benefits . The best examople is the Nawab of Arcot. In India by a constitutional amendment we derecognised the Princes and benefits given to them were cancelled. But the Nawab of Arcot alone still carries the title. He was ruling a small territory, but was given lot of properties and money as gift. If one is prepared to see the document of the property owned by Nawab in triplicane, it says it is given by British as a gift for the services rendered to the British crown,what was the service, he was the man who signed papers giving powers to British to collect taxes. One should only see the Film, Kattabomman acted by Shivaji, and the small area ruler of Tirunelveli, says, if Nawab of arcot has given you the right to collect taxes from us, please go and ask him. It is well explained in History that Ettayyappan and Nawab of Arcot were British stooges. Muslims were favoured to oppose Hindus. That is why I say, a country which was ruled by Muslims from 975 to 1857, and then ruled by British till 1947 and then ruled by Congress, whose only aim is to pamper and appease muslimns.the moot question who made you backward, who denied benefits and rights? It is well explained in History that Aurangzeb, the most notorious muslim ruler enforced double tax on Hindus, denied Government jobs to Hindus, and Hindus out shear frustration to survive converted to Islam. A cursory glance of Indian History will reveal, the sufferings of Hindus under Muslim rule, like Thuklaq, Kiljis, and Aurangazeb.
The iorony is today, we respect Aurangazeb by naming an important raod in Delhi after him.Are you aware there no road in Delhi named after Mahathma Gandhi or Jawaharlal Nehru.But we have Humayun Marg, Aurangazeb Marg, Akbar Marg,Lodhi Colony, Shajahan Marg, and many more. No Shivaji marg? In the Indian Banks, the highest deposits are held by Muslims. The averege income of a muslim family is double of a Hindu family. One should visit Malappuram, Cannanore, Calicut distrcts in Kerala to see the prosperity of Muslims. The highest sales glazed tiles in India is in Northern Kerala, which is an indicator of how theyare aquiring property & constructing palatial buildings. Still they say they are backward. Backward in what. Who made you backward. Allaudin Kilji? Thuklaq? Babar?Shajahan? Aurangazeb? or lately Fakrudin Ali Mohamed? Zakir Hussien? Congress? Because you vote as a block, crooked politicians are after you.
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by Abdullah on Apr 06, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Dear sridhar we understood ,but u tell wts happening now name of politics,they are using us,using our sentiment,forget past,there was mirjafar,was,Afjal khan prally there was Hyderali,tipu sulta ,Shivaji,Sirajuddoula.This is not time we are do quarel regarding this matter,we hv lots of problem,inflation,sucide of agricultreisl,ETC.
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by Abdullah on Apr 06, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
Whatls the hindu,muslims,we are all human beings.close yr eye & think who r u??we are coming from same genere!! If I meet you as a name of RAM ,u will be know me a s RAM,If I meet you as a name of RAHIM ,u will be know me as RAHIMM!!So whats our 1st identity??
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by sridhar gorantla on Apr 06, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
This is what I am saying. The whole problem arises if one blindly sticks to religion instead of sticking to the ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR ALLAH OR GOD. Religion is just a guidance purpose written set of rules, but it byitself is not the GOD or ALLAH or ALL PERVADING DIVINITY. Above all comes the humanity which is to treat other humans and infact as much the same as possible, treat everything in the creation as that of the GOD or ALLAH or ALL PERVADING DIVINTY and try to serve others. RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE OUR GENERATION IS TO WORK FOR THE COUNTRY AND DEVELOP INDIA AND FELLOW INDIANS TO COME OUT OF POVERTY BY KEEPING RELIGION ASIDE. THINGS LIKE MODI, ADVANI e.t.c keep propping up because of the previous KARMA. But, current generation should ignore it and try for better long term future rather than stick to the temporary anger and temptations. LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING. IF YOU TRY TO TELL YOUR FELLOW PEOPLE ABOUT THIS, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SET ASIDE THEIR ANGER AND BEHAVE AS WHAT I SAID, BECAUSE, THEY ARE NOT REAL FOLLOWERS OF THE RELIGION. THEY JUST USE RELIGION FOR THEIR BENEFIT. THAT'S IT. TRY IT OUT. YOU WILL UNDERSTAND IT.
