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TN and politics
by kumar on Apr 05, 2007 08:03 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

I dont necessarily agree with what is happening. I don't agree to reservation based on religion. Despite being FC, i am okay with reservation based on castes. The perfect thing would be reservation by economic standard. I just wanted to say this:

Every party has good and bad points about it. Some more than others. The dravidian parties in TN has actually done well not only for TN but for India. They have brought TN to be one of the states with better socio economic indicators. They have done this without going communist. Secondly, it is because of the South, especially the dravidian parties that we have english so prominently in India hence giving us that great advantage in service industry around the world.

Thirdly, DMK and AIADMK have been voted back into power. This is despite what you say is bad politics. I am sure they are doing something right because unlike states like Bihar, they have achieved a lot.

Lastly, I am from UP. I would rather DMK run UP than the goons that have run UP since independence. If UP could be half of what TN is now, Indian economy would be better for it, due to the large population of my state.

Higher education, access to healthcare, etc, etc are great in TN unlike UP.

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by Basker Mathrubootham on Apr 05, 2007 08:36 PM   Permalink
The so called backward castes in Tamil Nadu constitute 94% of the population. The reservation system was started to keep out Brahmins from the work force and not because of the love for backward castes. Despite being 3% of the population, brahmins were 72% of the workforce. There is no other way they could have achieved this parity except by thrusting reservations. No other country or state has achieved so much systematic annihilation of hardworking people.
Backward classes were added at random over the years. It is indeed puzzling for a state which claims to be so forward in economic and other indicators calls 94% of the population backward.
No other government in India can come to power by offering free colour tvs. Despite reserving 69% of the seats in college and government jobs, people still need freebies to come to power. After all haven't they acknowledged that they are incapable of good governance. Shame on them.

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by vivek murthi on Apr 05, 2007 09:52 PM   Permalink
You make a very good point Basker M. Just want to add my 2 cents worth to it. In all these years since reservations was started in TN, they have systematically removed forward class people from the workforce in the government sector. Today I am sure that the percentage of FC/Brahmin workforce in govt. offices are insignificant. No wonder you cannot stop corrupt/lethargic/incompetant government officers...especially if they are in that job because it was handed to them without any effort/sweat. I am not saying that all of them are corrupt/incompetant but a good majority are and even the one's who aren't still stand in que to enjoy the fruits of reservation.
The funny thing about all this is that people of BC/OBC category in TN who have come under this reservation scheme from the early days and are now in a well to do situation still comlain that they are not getting enough.
As a normal human being, if someone calls me backward when I am in a good job and a good financial situation, I'll be at war with him/her. Whatever happened to self-esteem and integrity.

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by kicks on Apr 05, 2007 08:25 PM   Permalink
Its a nice gesture to look at the brighter side of things...However the problem is a little more serious than you think. By creating such reservation you start eroding the very social justice and socio-economic indicators that were created.
Reservation in education based on religion is not correct in a country like india. As I said earlier we are very vulnerable to caste/religion.

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by Sarnath Kannan on Apr 05, 2007 08:32 PM   Permalink

I dont know about UP.
But DMK, ADMK r all goons only.
Dayanidhi maran from DMK threatened Tata to sign some deal when he was the cabinet minister. He still is, I believe.
They have media under heir control,
They r all corrupt...



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by Mahesh on Apr 05, 2007 08:14 PM   Permalink
These have nothing to do with the Governments that have been in power. It has been due to the people of the state (the large obedient and harworking workforce) that has brought about this change. Anyone who believes that all this happening because of the Government is living in fool's paradise.

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by m on Apr 05, 2007 11:43 PM   Permalink
We are generously offering a separate state/nation to upper caste/anti reservation people who are less than 10% of India.
http://www.blogpoll.com/poll/view_Poll.php?type=java&poll_id=108166


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by west on Apr 05, 2007 08:15 PM   Permalink
Grass always looks green on the other side!

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