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Are Muslims, Cristians are Realy Backward?
by avi on Apr 05, 2007 06:29 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

First let me ask a simple qustion. Are Muslims, Cristians are Backward?.
For answering it we should use the deffinations of Backwardness given in constituation of India for determining the reservations:
As per constituations of India and also defined time by time by SC- People who were depressed
for centuries on the basis of cast system or any other social index, which GOI may deemed fit for that time are backward.
So are Muslims, Cristians are Backward?. Are they were rulled or they were rullers. Its a open history, even nobody can chalange it in any court of world. from 14th century to 18th century muslims were lord of this land and since 16th century till 1947 they were sharing the power with cristians (assuming all the britisins are cristians).
So were they depresed by other religions? (if to provide reservation on basis of religion)
the Answer is the Big NO!.
So why they have to be given the reservation, while calling them as Backward.
Now people will tell that there are backward/Dalit people in Muslims and cristians community.
What is the fact? as per the holy litrature of these religions and also it is accepted by all the Holy instituations of these religionas there are no seperation in term of cast.
THERE IS NO CAST SYSTEMS IN Islam and Crsitiansim. So how come some of these people are calld backward/dalit. So how u can divide a unified religion in term of cast/or dalitness/Backwardness, whene there is none.

Now the Our so calld seccular leaders (Including Mr. Sarchar of SPC)will tell, look at the state of these people, why cant u see they are living in extream poverty, they dont have access to education/Jobs. I agree i can see it even with my close eyes. So i can also see the state of other 60 million people in india stugalling to get two time meals daily. So do u need to provide them reservations?
The anaswer is again big NO.
Give them food in place of silver spoon, which they cant use.
Now again comming back to reservation. Yes people are poor, they cant afford the fees, they cant afford the IIT-JEE coaching classes (provided one has completed the PUC).
So what is solution?
The solution is mmake free education, provide scholeships. Give them resorces finacially, if they have tallent- with just little help they will come to the level of other so called upper class.
But the govt cant do it- Look the state of TN- in place of giving the financial resources to people or for that matter providing the low cost/ proper power supply, the Givt of TN is giving the Free TV to people- Its a Little jok we used to tell between our circle- U go to Madras- There is no proper power, but the TN is giving the TV to Villages where there is no power line at all.
So Lets first us make our system clear, what actually we want?, do we acctually want to elimanate poverty or we want to elimane poor.
Its a open qustions to all who have to deal with public policies.
Do u have any answer?
If you have, come put it is this forum and let debet.
What is the best options we have.
Mr Karunanidhi You are also welcome along with all you may collect.

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  RE:Are Muslims, Cristians are Realy Backward?
by west on Apr 05, 2007 06:42 PM   Permalink
Good argument. I'm with you. I'm just curious - are there reservations in the appointment of lawyers / judges ? If not, why the law also not strongly telling the politicians that what they are doing eventually leads to downfall of the country?

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  RE:Are Muslims, Cristians are Realy Backward?
by avi on Apr 05, 2007 07:05 PM   Permalink
No there are no reservation in judical machinary yet. but some people allready asking for that, telling that SC is inferrior to there rights and so on... Lets hope, the Judicarry itself not put this social worm in itself.

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  RE:Are Muslims, Cristians are Realy Backward?
by Suresh Kumar on Apr 05, 2007 08:35 PM   Permalink
Good Point.

I believe Christian missionaries attracted hindus by saying that christianity doesnt have
caste system, so by converting to christians caste system will be destroyed. But lot Christians
in Tamilnadu are still deep rooted with their castes, for example when they look marriage
alliance they look based on caste. For example, Christian Pillai looks for alliance with another
Christian Pillai. Now where does their principle go.

Reservation should be based on the family income and not based on the caste.

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