I do not know much about Orissa incident. But, you have to be in Gujarat for long time before hating Narendra Modi. Godhara has been historically a boiling plate communally for a long time. Ahmedabad (Amdavad as we call it) had been a worst place in that regard too. Though communal riots are localized to some areas, 'RathYatra" every year has to be highly secured every single year. In Vadodara, whenever Pakistan used to play cricket, you would find Pakistani flag on the railway track near the most used road. So, people in major places of Gujarat had latent anger which exploded after Godhara incident. Government played some role if you consider policemen failing as they didn't stop hindus harshly. Where is Modi in it?
RE:RE:Where is Modi in it?
by Narendra Tade on Apr 05, 2007 03:24 AM Permalink
Hi Virasha,
I have taken voluntary retirement from the Army last year. I was on duty in Ahmedabad at the receeding stage of the riot. I know what happened there and how the police acted. I don't know if Narendra Modi was behind that or not, but I feel as the Chief Minister - the matter was in his notice - that is natural.
I am not sure how most Gujaratis see the Godhra incident but, I, on my duty, was feeling ashamed to be a Hindu in front of my collegues, some of whom were not Hindus.
In army, we are taught to protect the weak, irrespective of his religion, caste etc. I wonder, why it is not taught to the civilians.
RE:Where is Modi in it?
by Virasha on Apr 05, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
Mr Tade, I respect your thoughts. You must not be ashamed of being Hindu. Indian history is filled with enormous incidents like you saw from Mulsims doing the same to Hindus.
This does not mean that I should retaliate. But, at some point in time, muslims should understand that Hindu tolerance is not cowardice. This is for the betterment of both communities. Things are not taken for granted forever.
You must be proud of being Hindu. If you feel ashamed, you should follow better religion you like or be atheist.
RE:Where is Modi in it?
by Shahryar Pax on Apr 06, 2007 01:50 PM Permalink
Islamic ideology teaches that anyone who seeks a reconciliation is a weakling and should be subdued.
The only way to deal with muslim violence is with retaliatory violence.
RE:Where is Modi in it?
by Shivkumar Singh on Apr 06, 2007 08:29 PM Permalink
With Islamists what works is two eyes for an eye and the whole jaw for the tooth. Peace including of the Gandhian variety did not work.
America is living in peace only because for the two towers, they took out two Islamic countries in retaliation..Afghanistan and Iraq. If only they had taken out Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, world would be a better place.
Those who are comparing Modi and Buddhadeb under the same punishment, I would like make few points.
(1) Godhra Carnage was not started by Modi, but Nandigram carnage initiated by Buddhadeb and CPM.
(2) Gujrat Riot was also not initiated by Modi, Nandigram mass murder initiated by Buddhadeb and CPM.
(3) Modi might have been sitting iddle instead of taking stern action to control riot, but Buddhdeb and CPM actively initiated the mass murder misusing state law (police force).
(4) So, Buddhadeb ordered for the killing of farmers (Hindus and Muslims), whereas Modi did not order killing.
(5) Modi came to power not by muslim votes. But Buddhadeb and CPM came to power by common people and farmers' vote whom they are killing now.
(6) During Gujrat Riot, Media persons had full access to move around (although it was risky), but in Nandigram massacre no media person was allowed, no minimum help could reach, all the junctions around 100 Km cirle were blocked by the armed CPM cadres.
(7) Rioter were not used police dress in Gujrat, to spread riot wehreas CPM cadres used police dress for the genocide (mass murder of farmers).
So, Buddhadev and CPM must be brought into firing squade for justice. If Modi is convicted he may get get few year of jail or may not.
But CPMs and Buddhadeb's brutal and barbaric act on farmers is clear signal that CPM has to be finished by hook or crook.
Most probaly Singur is the begining of the end of CPM and Nandigram will be its real death scene.
