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Communism an understanding of only the Intellectual Elite
by Narendra Tade on Apr 05, 2007 03:52 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Communism is based on proper doctrines and theories - unlike the idealogy-less make shift jugaru politics of most Indian parites. In 1948 when Marx and Engles released the Menufesto - it was not meant to win elections but to change a social order - which has happened in Europe and USA, may not be under a Communist Party but under the priniples of more equitable distribution of wealth. Today an European factory worker can own a BMW and a farmer can own 36 cows. That is the success of the Marx-Engelican dream - it is not necessary that some party by the name of Communist party has to rule the land to get all this.

Back home, those of you who have some reading behind your comments will know that Kerela is the state with highest average per kapita income and literacy rate. (You may check Amarta Sen's - An Argumentative Indian, for a closer look on Kerela's success )In fact if you comapre only Kerela with the growth parameters of China - Kerela will win in all fronts. Imagine what would have happened if all Indian states were kerela (don't worry I am not from Kerela).

I would only suggest, that those of you, who criticize communism do it with proper reading and justification rather than following a herd mentality.

If you think that communism is present only in the practise of some misguided politicians or demi-dictators - that is because you are trying to form an opinion by looking at the form without having knowledge of the substance.

It takes a lot to really cry at another's misery. It takes a lot to give away the very little you have to the one who has even less - a true communist can do all this - that is one of the reasons why we don't belive in god ;))

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  RE:Communism an understanding of only the Intellectual Elite
by habc on Apr 06, 2007 10:40 AM   Permalink
Mr. Tade,

You are only following surface bhaashan of communists - they are hypocrites trying to fool everyone.
Here is a book on Amazon.com
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Book-Communism-Crimes-Repression/dp/0674076087/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-7725374-5082460? ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175835999&sr=8-1
Here are the excerpts from the Amazon web site

Communism did kill, Courtois and his fellow historians demonstrate, with ruthless efficiency: 25 million in Russia during the Bolshevik and Stalinist eras, perhaps 65 million in China under the eyes of Mao Zedong, 2 million in Cambodia, millions more Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America--an astonishingly high toll of victims. This freely expressed penchant for homicide, Courtois maintains, was no accident, but an integral trait of a philosophy, and a practical politics, that promised to erase class distinctions by erasing classes and the living humans that populated them. Courtois and his contributors document Communism's crimes in numbing detail, moving from country to country, revolution to revolution. The figures they offer will likely provoke argument, if not among cliometricians then among the ideologically inclined. So, too, will Courtois's suggestion that those who hold Lenin, Trotsky, and Ho Chi Minh in anything other than contempt are dupes, witting or not, of a murderous school of thought--one that, while in retreat around the world, still has many adherents. A thought-provoking work of history and social criticism, The Black Book of Communism fully merits the broadest possible readership and discussion. --Gregory McNamee

From Publishers Weekly
In France, this damning reckoning of communism's worldwide legacy was a bestseller that sparked passionate arguments among intellectuals of the Left. Essentially a body count of communism's victims in the 20th century, the book draws heavily from recently opened Soviet archives. The verdict: communism was responsible for between 85 million and 100 million deaths in the century. In France, both sales and controversy were fueled, as Martin Malia notes in the foreword, by editor Courtois's specific comparison of communism's "class genocide" with Nazism's "race genocide."

After reading this you should ask yourself how you can support an ideology which killed 100 million people. I think like most Indians you are very ideologically innocent.

The web site http://marxwords.blogspot.com/ ahs lots of quotes from Marx and Engels and friends - please read them and go through the archives of that web site by clicking on the dates in the left side - the quotes will open your eyes.

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  RE:Communism an understanding of only the Intellectual Elite
by anirban ghosh on Nov 16, 2007 08:30 PM   Permalink
So, only UAS & his friends like u r doing da good things in middle-east ! for ur information we r in da right way at present. u will b able to c da change in world order with in next 10yrs.

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by anirban ghosh on Nov 16, 2007 08:31 PM   Permalink
So, only USA & his friends like u r doing da good things in middle-east ! for ur information we r in da right way at present. u will b able to c da change in world order with in next 10yrs.



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  RE:Communism an understanding of only the Intellectual Elite
by Virasha on Apr 06, 2007 02:08 AM   Permalink
Communism is a failed system. There are a few strong holdrs though, demons like China. If you do not acquire enough skills to compete with others, you are loosing something. That's a very natural law which communists do not believe! Help us all God!

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  RE:Communism an understanding of only the Intellectual Elite
by Uttamkumar on Apr 05, 2007 04:28 AM   Permalink

Most difficult part of communism is you loose
your self identity, freedom of speech, freedom
of expression and loose the basic right of the
decision made by people.


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  RE:Communism an understanding of only the Intellectual Elite
by UK on Apr 05, 2007 07:16 AM   Permalink
HI, i am from kerala and i know wot the real situation there.Althouhg i dont have any political belief i am reading these type of news.Party top comarades earning money everytime. When they were in Opposit they object and made strong agitations against ADB Loan. Now when they came to power they accept it. And they trying to create two types of people in stae. One is Marxists and others non marxists. Using their state power to kill,harrase and bruthatlity against ohter political parteis. As a free thinker like me its irritatingn their behaviour. If in kerala the situation is like this then i can assume wot will be in bengal. I think even prakash karat may be know about the Nandigram massacre b4 doing

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by Ravikant Bhat on Jan 14, 2008 05:11 PM   Permalink
The fact is Communism as an ideology and state policy is a total failure! Perhaps the biggest and most ambitious experiment of the 20th century is a failure. It has failed to deliver what it promised to do. Now whatever the ideological framework or principles of Communism and however lofty they may sound, they are useless! I give them to dogs!

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