Rajeev, how can educated people like you spread hatred and fundamentalism? Your blog calls yourself a "Shadow Warrior" & "A Hindu Nationalist". How can you discriminate your own countrymen in basis of religion & caste??? And you show off as savior of poor in your article!
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!! You have no right to talk about other killers.
Founding father of Hindutva are: Bankim Chatterjee, Swami Dayananad, Swami Vivekanand, Aurobindo Ghosh and Savarkar. And many many prominent thinkers, politicians from Tilak to Lajpat Rai........
Hindutva and Hindu nationalism is what defined India.
Its not what Sitaram Yechuri want you to believe.
First learn what they stands for and then only you will realise whether Hindu nationalists are for setting up a theocratic state, or is it based on religion.
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by biju nair on Apr 03, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
When some body tells the truth the liar and propagandist gets angry. This is natural.
This Guy have only Marxist education it seems. Let him also graduate from a madrassa to increase his level of ignorance.
Don't worry the majority is with you Mr.Rajeev.
These propagandists and liars will have only temporary successes. The truth will prevail ultimately.
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by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
Now what is the truth? The lies fed by bjp to the public?
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by Pathur Swaminathan on Apr 04, 2007 01:16 AM Permalink
No, perhaps the lies fed by the "Dravidians", who are perpetuating the lies and propaganda of the Macaulyites, Marxists and Missionaries!!
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by Serial Tourist on Apr 03, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
Prem Kumar: what exactly is your objection to Rajeev's article?
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by Prem Kumar on Apr 03, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
Serial, Bhaskar,
I have no disrespect for senior leaders who are nationals. I love them as much as anyone do. Secondly, I condemn cunning CM and ruthless Buddadeb as worse as anyone can. [Baskhar, I guess you forgot that we were condemning together, the arrogant WB govt killing poor farmers in Nandigram after the issue].
But what I'm opposing Rajeev is different reason. I agree with him when he condemns violence but he is not honest on condemnign all sorts of violence. He is been writing for long but check whether there is one article condemning post-godhra violence or Kalinganagar killing in Orissa. both are state-sponsored violence too but he doesn't worry as it is done by his favorite government, needless to say who.
To me, Buddadeb & Modi are both same - abused their power as CM and unleashed terror on people and both should be brought down.
Rajeev portrayal should be all killers punished not based on their idealogies. People should unite and fight against all the corrupt politicians.
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by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
My dear bhaskar,nobody want hindus to take it lying down. Did anyone say so? Why do you surmise all these things?
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by Serial Tourist on Apr 04, 2007 02:01 AM Permalink
HIndus are increasingly getting radicalised in India. They will lose their tolerance this way if killings or conversions of Hindus continue in India. Then it will be hell for minorities. India will become like Israel to protect itself. Once a people become radicalised, it is very difficult to put the genie back. What is stopping Hindus from recapturing Pakistan and Bangladesh and reordering a partition of India with complete exchange of populations? Minorities are going to lose all their freedoms if Hindus become militant. It will be a real tragedy for India. Congress and its anti-Hindu policies are leading to this. Hindus have begun to feel there is an apartheid against them in their own country.
Under the endowment act, all money from the temples is taken away by the government and then redistributed to churches and mosques. Hindus are not allowed to use that money to open hospitals and schools in tribal or backward areas. This is deliberately done so that there is no competition to missionaries in poor tribal states.
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by Bhoomipalagan on Apr 04, 2007 04:42 AM Permalink
Mr seriel must know that this world has become a global village. Nothing is hidden including RSS hidden agenda !! So what happens at home will reveberate across the world. If the minorities at home are harassed and ill treated the same treatment will be meted out to our hindu brothers and sisters who have settled abroad. Did you think about that? If you spread hate this way only you and your organisation are going to be ostracised by the hindus themselves.
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by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 04:25 AM Permalink
Who are the hindus you are talking about. The 3% brahmins or the 1% RSS indoctrinated brahmins.The rest of the indians want to live in peace.
What you have in your hand to say that Post-Godhra was state sponsored?
An Enquiry commission is working. Has Modi, BJP even accused them? Have they tried to undermine their work, the way CPIM is trying to unsettle CBI probe in Nandigram?
Will teesta Seetavad et al wait for report of Nanavati Commission report?
As far as killings by all sides? ITS HINDU KILLINGS IN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS AT KASHMIR, BANGLADESH, PAKISTAN WHICH ARE NEVER TALKED BY PSUEDO CLASS.
YOU ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THAT LIST.
YOU SHED TEARS FOR 700 MUSLIMS DIED IN GUJ 2002. WHY NOT FOR 10,000,000 HINDUS/BUDDHISTS DRIVEN OUT FROM BANGLADESH?
HAVE YOU GUYS SPOKEN ON 400,000 KASHMIRIS DRIVEN OUT?
NO. WHY? DOES HINDUS LIFE EQUALLY IMPORTANT AS MUSLIMS OR NOT?
ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE PUSHING HINDUS TO THE BRINK BY NOT CONDEMNING ISLAMIST TERRORISM.
PEOPLE ARE HUGELY UPSET. AND THEY WILL DO NEEDFUL TO PROTECT THEMSELVES.
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by Kalai Selvan on Apr 04, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
Prem kumar had said earlier that ALL human life is sacred & ALL killings should be condemned be it hindu,muslim or christian. It has to be welcomed. But it looks like the RSS feels that Hindu (or is it brahmin?) life is more precious than others.
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by Prem Kumar on Apr 04, 2007 06:40 AM Permalink
Bhaskar, NOW I understand your stand - you are not worried about poor farmers killed in Nandigram, you only want to oppose CPM. For sometime, I mistook your FUNDAMENTALISM for love for your countrymen.
Please see my posting in Rediff links during Nandigram incident. I was more critical of CPM & Buddha than you. I have no respect for CPM, EVER.
When I talk about Gujarat, I also talk about Nandigram - who killed in Nandigram? Are they NOT hindus? I din even care to know what religion they belong too. Why are you interested in the unseen barb you are putting around yourself called "RELIGION"?
Who said I haven't talked about Hindu minorities killed in Kashmir? Even when I opposed, I did oppose only the killing of Human beings in Kashmir, I didn't paint them as Hindus!!!
Shame on you all who see religion in everything. I hope one day your thirst for blood of different religion human will end.
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by Tamil Arasan on Apr 04, 2007 04:30 AM Permalink
The whole world knows that the aftermath of Godhra was state sponsored under the supervision of Narendra modi. That is why Modi was denied entry into america .They felt he was a terrorist.
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by Virasha on Apr 04, 2007 02:37 AM Permalink
Namaste Prem! I do not know much about Orissa incident. But, you have to be in Gujarat for long time before hating Narendra Modi. Godhara has been historically a boiling plate communally for a long time. Ahmedabad (Amdavad as we call it) had been a worst place in that regard too. Though communal riots are localized to some areas, 'RathYatra" every year has to be highly secured every single year. In Vadodara, whenever Pakistan used to play cricket, you will find Pakistani flag on the railway track near the most used road. So, people in major places of Gujarat had latent anger which exploded after Godhara incident. Government played some role if you consider policemen failing as they didn't stop hindus harshly. Where is Modi in it?
