The SC seems to be making fun of the whole issue. If the quota is meant for the upliftment of the OBCs, it should be made applicable and available to them at the earliest. Why should it stay the order and postpone to the next year? In my openion, on one hand the politicians make the full advantage of the whole issue and on the other hand the SC shows the Brahmanical or Rich infulence. Both should work for the better ment of the country and not to show their power. It is not the time for power fight but to support the needy! So let the quota be applicable from this year!
RE:RE:OBC quota
by mm gupta on Apr 02, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Dear Peter Ladis!Please know this! India, after independence, is governed by a CONSTITUTION,made effective from JAN 1950.The articles 14 to 16 ensure EQUALITY AND ABSENCE OF DISCRIMINATION, to all citizen,irrerspective of religion/caste/race/place of birth, excepting under 16(4)reservation was permitted in favour of socially backward and educationally backward classes, 16(4) has to be read with Art 335 which stipulates "maintenance of efficiency of administration".THIS RELAXATION FROM ARTICLE16(4) WAS GRANTED FOR 40 YEARS FROM THE DATE OF EFFECT OF COSTITUTION MEANING UPTO JANUARY 1990. The costitution makers gave ample opportunity for the Goverments in power since 1950(the first elected Government was seen in 1952 when the first election was held and CONGRESS CAME TO POWER EVERYWHEREIn forty years, Congress was in centre upto 1977, thats 25 years .IT IS MORE THAN ONE GENERATION FOR UPLIFTMENT OF THE BACKWARDS!EFFORT AND MONEY WISE 25 YEARS OF EFFORTS CAN TRANSFORM THE PICTURE! I t did not happen that way and the reservation process went on ! 1977 March to 1980 Jan, there was JANATA GOVT AND SOME TURMOIL BUT NONE OPPOSED THE RESERVATION SYSTEM! FROM THERE TO JAN 1990 CONGRESS HELD THE POWER ! NOW TIME OIF FORTY YEARS ARE UP ! VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTION BEGINS!RESERVATION GOES ON! THOSE HAVING BENEFITS STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE BENEFITS AS GOVT DIDNOT HAVE DATA RECORD MAINTAINED! ST/ ST WENT ON TO RECEIVE BENEFITS AS BACKWARDS! SONS/DAUGHTERS OF WELL PLACED/EDUCATED ALSO HAD THAT PRIVILEDGE -NO CHECK! While SCs / STs were considered to be backwards socially, and benefitte limilessly, the consideration for EDUCATIONALLY backwards were in darkness! There were schemes but where did the money go? FORTY YEARS PASSED AND TODAY AFTER 55 YEARS IF SOMEONE SAYS there are social/educational backwards and link many many other classes as socially backward and so on IS IT NOT A COOKING? COOKING, FAILURE TO GOVERN HAS LED THIS QUESTION TODAY THAT WHETHER QOUTA SHOULD BE RETAINED. A PRUDENT ANSWER IS "NO" because, it is not a soluton! First the correct survey , Identify peoplew who are still socially/educationally backward, provide HELPS DELINKED WITH RESERVATION ! Do anythingexcept reservation! OTHERWISE THE CONSTITUTION WILL BE VIOLATED! DISCRIMINATion , non equality to others will take over! Its a NATIONAL MATTER OF PRIORITY!
RE:RE:OBC quota
by on Apr 02, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
president enjoys several benefits..it is one of them he used for his daughter..so since K.R. Narayanan made a mistake to awail reservation, it dosent mean even you should..if tomorrow K.R.narayanan start begging on the road, will you do the same??
reservation can be given only to the poor and needy (whatever be the caste etc..)..There should be no reservation for the rich, even if he is from OBC or SC/ST..those who get selected based on merit and those who are economically poor should only get admissions...
can u explain the need for reservation for creamy layer??its just vote bank politics Mr.Ben..you people support these leaders only because u r benefiting out of it..because u knw tht u may nt get admissions based on ur merit..cos u dnt have the capacity or urge..i have heard so many of reserved category students saying that they are aiming only for 55-60% in MH CET (when asked by teachers about their target score)..whereas any studious student or unreserved stud would aim around 98% to get selected in a good college..thats the truth..what can u expect such students who aim less to become in future..they are just hogging over the seats and because of such students the deserving students are left behind..and it is sad that reservation is misused..only those people from rich OBC and SC/ST families awail reservation... where is the poor???
what Supreme court has done and asked is very right..where is the poor and who are OBC's..where is the data to show OBC's or SCST..where will meritorious students go??is there any justification for making reservation for creamy layer??
if at all there is reservation...it should only be for poor economically backward people irrespective of their caste or creed...
RE:RE:OBC quota
by Peter Ladis on Apr 02, 2007 11:16 AM Permalink
Please check your conscience if the order is against the Morality or not! The oder which will be right for next year, cannot be right this year. Why? The right that one can get in future, cannot be the right at present! why? So this order of the SC looks as if it is a biased decision (though binds all other courts)! It is against the equity principle, natural justice, and good conscience.
RE:RE:RE:OBC quota
by Stranger on Apr 02, 2007 11:29 AM Permalink
Reservation is curse on merit.. I'll never go to any SC/ST doctor for medical check up.. and will never built home from a reserved category engineer..
People with the mentality for reservations on the basis of caste/tribe sucks and are parasitic creepers in indian society!
RE:OBC quota
by m on Apr 02, 2007 01:54 PM Permalink
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RE:RE:RE:OBC quota
by TRUTHBABU on Apr 02, 2007 11:23 AM Permalink
Hai, Peter, How can you expect there will be an order for next year. Unless correct data furnished SC wont pass any order. 1931 data is a funny evidence. No reservation ever will be the order of SC.
