well said prof gopinathan.but your views can be read by few persons like me , it requires a mass movement from a person like you. will you please do that.
RE:obc's
by sivaraman on Jun 14, 2006 11:23 AM Permalink
Yes, My English is poor. But my expressions reached and you responded. I am not ashamed of my English, after all this my foreign language.
If you think that well-known English persons are intelligent then Star Hotel Receptionist and English literature student also to be considered as most knowledgeable person. Isnt it?
I dont think Prof. Gopinathan wrote a technical article in rediff to commend his subject and I have to be an another IIT professor.
If somebody is having very good academic knowledge not necessarily his opinion about the every subject/society is correct. I cant simply agree with his points only because of he came from IIT.
Please dont mix-up your emotions with IIT Prof., your personal opinion and about the current issue.
RE:how many of your village peoples got higher education
by Lakshmi on Jun 09, 2006 09:38 PM Permalink
Mr.Sivaraman,
you are giving the answer in your response. Tell me how many of the village people are deprived of the reservations because of OBC's /SC/ST population in Cities. If you are so concerned about village people, join anti-reservation protest. Protest against extending reservations to those in cities, extending reservations to families who already got benefited by reservations for more than once. Then we need not hike the present percentage of reservations.
RE:obc's
by CV on Jun 11, 2006 11:20 AM Permalink
This Sid reeks of failure and stupidity from miles away. Dude, the point being made is "Let education be exclusively on the basis of merit. Does not matter whether the person is from BC or FC". Before you comment about Dr. Anand, note one thing, if stupid idiots get into reputed institutions, it is akin to entering the gladiator's arena through the backdoor - you can get in, but you have to bloody fight your way out. That is something back-door entrants cannot do.
RE:obc's
by Punit Rathod on Jun 09, 2006 07:34 PM Permalink
> how many of your village peoples got higher education how you ever thought about them? > How many peoples will get a guide like your science teacher.
This is exactly what the author says that you need to fight for. The deprived need quality schooling.
Reservation in Post Graduate education will not compensate for lack of education to hundreds and thousands of villagers.
This only proves that the author has thought more about the deprived in the village than what you have.
> But you kind of people will only tell to throw away a crutch ,but will never give/come up with any solution to solve it.
He has come up with a solution, only if you could see it. "Throw away the crutches and look for empowering the uneducated. Make them independent, not dependents".
Finally... stop behaving as if reservation is your birth right. Fight for right to equality ! When others can get good schooling and good teachers early in their childhood, why cant the ones in village !
RE:obc's
by Ramana on Jun 11, 2006 01:31 AM Permalink
Hello "SID",
How many times you got reservation fruits to serve in for the so called 12 years. Which one is better ...either reservation to give the fruits to OBCs who are already set well or providing the quality education at primary and secondary level in the backword or rural areas where people are not having basic sanity requirements. If you support people like Sivaraman, you will get the worst service than what you are getting in Indian government organisations, since Sivaramans are there to serve you. See his thought process of asking the same questions already asked by IIT profesor. It is his gready and your gready which making India so deprived.
RE:obc's
by Punit Rathod on Jun 09, 2006 07:35 PM Permalink
> how many of your village peoples got higher education how you ever thought about them? > How many peoples will get a guide like your science teacher.
This is exactly what the author says that you need to fight for. The deprived need quality schooling.
Reservation in Post Graduate education will not compensate for lack of education to hundreds and thousands of villagers.
This only proves that the author has thought more about the deprived in the village than what you have.
> But you kind of people will only tell to throw away a crutch ,but will never give/come up with any solution to solve it.
He has come up with a solution, only if you could see it. "Throw away the crutches and look for empowering the uneducated. Make them independent, not dependents".
Finally... stop behaving as if reservation is your birth right. Fight for right to equality ! When others can get good schooling and good teachers early in their childhood, why cant the ones in village !
RE:obc's
by sgpal on Jun 10, 2006 11:57 AM Permalink
Regarding the propoganta sivaraman's comments" I wuld like d to placed my reponce here.With his atroshius way of speling and his thought proses expoced ,it is beter that he did not taught his villege peple, or else yhey would catch his speiing and thought virus!"
RE:obc's
by Bimal on Jun 09, 2006 03:43 PM Permalink
Hello There, Don't wait for the solutions... it won't come to ur feet.. Look for the solution... then u r done...
RE:obc's
by Raghu on Jun 09, 2006 07:26 PM Permalink
Mr. sivaraman, You got so wild after just reading an article against reservation. How would a student who has to build a career on pure merit feel ? .How would an economically backward and who is neither an OBC nor an SC/ST feel ? .Are the OBC's only living in rural places ?. Sorry to say but OBC's and other reserved categories are spoiling themselves and also the society. This is exactly what the professor meant when he said about crutches. It's just the matter of time when IIT's and IIM's would be just another govt. run institution where there is hardly any quality. The professor feels bad because he knows whats it like being in an IIT and the effects it can have brining in reservation. Tell you what anything thats not earned would not give u any pleasure. Anyways one need to have inner conscience to feel any of that.
