RE:vande mataram
by iftikhar ahmed on Aug 24, 2006 04:53 PM Permalink
it seems your problem is u r not good in statstics , throw away u r feeling from u r mind that all r hindus in hindustan. any kind of survey official or unofficial will give u clear data that how many are non-hindus(muslims) in hindustan.
RE:vande mataram
by Bipin on Aug 28, 2006 12:43 PM Permalink
To all those whoe believe that "Jana Gana Mana..." is deragotary to India...and those who take pride in calling themselves "Hindus"... Do you know that the very word "Hindu" has been coined by the Muslim invaders that too in despise and contempt(just as Britishers called Indians as "black..." or Indians took charm in calling Britishers "white monkeys"). When the Muslim invaders wanted to refer to the population in this Indian subcontinent as Sindhu people(or the people beyond the Sindhu river) they called it "Hindus" (In Arabic the consonant "H" is used with much of stress to express hatred or contempt). Yet there are lot of people who take "pride" in calling themselves as "Hindus" which is clearly an abuse.
We better shelve these non-issues as there are plenty of life and death problems required to be dealt with.
RE:vande mataram
by vinay on Aug 29, 2006 11:47 AM Permalink
Well muslims will always be at odd with the mainstream in a non muslim secular society no wonder they are seen as a potential fifth column in every civilized non muslim society like India,uk,germany,US
Very correct! I really don't understand why is there so much controversy about a National Song. I wonder how would singing it affect somebody's religion?? In today's world religion should be treated as something very personal. It should never pose a challenge to national issues. Each of us needs to remember that India is a multi-cultural and multi-religion state. We need to honour that and work unitedly with all vigour to make it a better place to live. Its indeed too painful to see and hear people arguing over petty issues. Definitely National song shouldn't be an issue!! Minoroties shouldn't try to isolate themselves, they need to give up the feeling of helplessness. 'Nobody is helpless' without a reason. All they need is proper education! They should learn to face stiff-competition. They should learn to work harder. They should know that mere complaining about issues and that "we don't have proper jobs and facilities" is never going to help. You need to strive, work harder than others and prove that you could move with the rest. Guys, you need to change your 'attitude'!! I'm sure if you do, you'll earn much respect and status in your eyes and in others too!
RE:vande mataram
by Md. Yazed Alam Khan on Aug 25, 2006 03:51 PM Permalink
Don't tell about the official or unofficila survey you Iftikhar!!! Why should the people of India officiate? If you think that, only 20% of the population is enough to suppress Indians, you are doing a mistake. If you feel, you can't sing the National Anthem, just leave this land. We Indians don't want any traitor in our country, or the Indians will push you out one day!!