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a biased view
by ahmad on Aug 23, 2006 03:33 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

well..your report was quite interesting..but to an extent it was also quite biased,as you have blamed the victims instead of the tormentors.as a matter of fact,the israelis have displaced the palestinians and they are fighting for their land.the big question is when the israelis kill innocent palestinians or civillians then no one calls them terrorist then why are only the palestinians branded as terrorist???

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by Atom_ant on Aug 23, 2006 05:13 PM   Permalink
How many times are you guys going to repeat this inane phrase? Arabs/muslims are victims blah blah. Every muslim (arab or any other) says the same thing like a parrot. It sounds like something school children would say while skipping...

'We are victim' is untrue. For god's sake, pls read the article before going on a mental spasm and just frothing. For example, "In 1967 Syria, Jordan and Egypt attacked Israel." How can Syria, Jordan and Egypt be the aggressors and victims at the same time? Just because Israel kicked in their teeth down their throats does not change the aggressor/victim equation.

Before you or anyone decides to reply, please spare us the usual diatribe about how Israel is trying to the destroy the Middle East, we are victims and other folktales. Pls come up with something new.

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by Sameer on Aug 24, 2006 12:30 PM   Permalink
Hi "rapid",
You are quiet "rapid" in echoing the haevily biased and "far from truth" article by Sudhir Bisht!
Have your own say, man instead of just parroting the stuff fed by western media thru bisht!

May the sense prevail!

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by UniWorld on Sep 06, 2006 08:41 AM   Permalink
Ramiah,
I don't understand your comparison of india and british colonisation theory at all. You are asking
what if british kept india without giving it back after colonization; Atom_ant is not suggesting that you give back palestine and israel to french who ruled this region as a colony! (I don't support all the
arguments of Atom_ant; neither do I reject all your
argument - just my observation).

Yet, Interestingly, By your own argument you
are suggesting that native people of a land should
get back their own land occupied by their own people
for 1000s of years.

By that argument, europeans should leave americas to
native (red) indians and go back to europe;
bangladesis, pakistanis, & afghanis should leave
their occupied terriroties to ethnic indians and go
back to persia; and the list goes on...

As you might have figured out, It's just greed of all type/race of people in other people's land and money. One cannot expect fairness for himself if he is not fair to others.

The only way to peace is to people start using their brains and get out of the 19th century illness/madness of war, aggression and terrorism to the 21st centuries hopes of peace, love and openness.

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by Ramiah Ariya on Aug 23, 2006 10:38 PM   Permalink
Atom_ant, Ahmad is not the parrot - you are. The Palestinians ARE the victims - because a quarter Jew living in France can migrate to Israel and have more rights than a Palestinian who has lived on that land for milleniums. Please remeber that Zionism CREATED Israel, a new country and invited millions of Jews to migrate - that is called colonialism. If Palestinian are not victims, then Indians are not victims of the British colonisation either.
Rapid, Get your facts straight - less than 1% of the current Israeli population lived in Palestine a 100 years back. Jews have not lived there for thousands of years - If they can claim rights then we can all go back to Germany and claim rights.
Arabs are second class citizens in Israel - they cannot buy land in most of Israel and they cannot intermarry.
The original offense is that Israel was created in Palestine - for racist reasons. It should have been created in the USA where there is so much land. Churchill called Palestinians a Mongrel race. If Palestine was not a country India was not one either before 1947 - hence we should support British atrocities in India.

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by rapid on Aug 23, 2006 05:22 PM   Permalink
Did you know that the Palestinians could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a countries of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years?

Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the Palestinians and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israels border in order to push the Jews into the sea. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land. Lesson for the Arab nations is that if they dont want to lose territory to Israel, then they shouldnt start wars.

Can you explain why Arabs can worship freely in Israel but Jews would certainly be hung from street lamps after having their intestines devoured by an Arab mob if they so much as entered an Arab country?

Israel resettled and absorbed all of the Jews from Arab countries who wished to become Israelis. Why havent any Arab countries offered to resettle Arabs who were displaced from Israel,leaving them to rot for 60 years in squalid refugee camps?

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