Systemic changes do not begin with procedures; that would be equivalent to watering the leaves. We need to work on the common understanding issues which can inculcate healthy conformance and these begin with values paradigm, assessing the scale of operations and complexity in communication to determine investment levels, defining the criteria for success etc.
The agenda of India is not reservation; it is prosperity and equitable development. If reservation is the means to achieve it, then it ought to be enforced. The debate ought to focus on what reservation can not achieve the desired result. It seems that the best Indian minds who can competently address the issue are silent. In the present cacophonic political climate of India, this silence of buddhijivis may appear sensible. When the political intent becomes suspect, desertion is the only option. Indians live not only in India but also on this Earth.
RE:Fishing in the pool of talent
by Ramiah Ariya on Sep 07, 2005 05:42 AM Permalink
strysh4, You said: "If a community has to grow there has to be effort from within - not pampering" Please read the news about Dalits' houses burnt in Gohana, Haryana and Akola, Maharashtra. How many times have Brahmins' houses been burnt in caste violence? If you had any sense of the misery and oppression that Dalits and Backward Castes have to go through in their daily lives, you would not be talking about "pampering". After having enjoyed the fruits of education and cornering of all jobs for 2000 years, it is easy to comment about other communities having to "grow from within". Although caste violence may not now involve Brahmins - mainly because of their migration to urban areas, Brahmins have played an active role in suppressing other castes. There is good reason for all the "advancements" that you talk about: it is education and money that Brahmins cornered BECAUSE of the caste system they put in place. To talk even now as if Brahmins have "special" qualities is plain and simple casteist and racist.
RE:Fishing in the pool of talent
by strysh4 on Sep 06, 2005 05:44 AM Permalink
Hi sgpal,
I agree with you that caste thing has been magnified out of proportion by the politicians to suit their agenda and Swiss bank balances.
Everyone talks of upper castes being atrocious to the lower castes. Tell me how many brahmins.. the so called higher class, have killed the so called backwards? Today, after 50 + years of Reservations for the backwards, how many brahmins are doing great deal of advance? Many. And everything is against them.... the state, the policies, the attitide of masses of BC, OBC, SC & ST. Now there is a talk of a new class... Minorities BCs stuff.
If a community has to grow, there has to be effeort from within, not pampering by the vote hungry politicians.
Guess who used to live in rags, on bare minimum facilities, bagging for alms, teaching the society, often unable to take care of themselves? Brahmins. The other upper castes like Thakurs (many of them) have brought disrepute to the term upper castes... Regular exploitation of poor farmers, land grabbing.
Have Brahmins been known for violence, land grabbing, etc? But they bear the brunt of attack on Upper castes. Not that all Brahmins are sadhus. But the politicians are CRIMINALS.
