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Wrong Choices!
by Satya on May 11, 2005 01:08 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

First and foreemost this was written by a Hindu and
there is nothing in the article that suggests
her motivationother than stirring a hornet's nest.

In my mind in a democratic country every one
co-exists. If uniform civil code is a thorn
in the flesh and majority of muslims are ok
with how things are why disturb the peace?

Instead we could look at why India is still
backward in terms of standard of living?
why is india still among the most corrupt
countries? Why is the infrastructure so poor?
These are more pressing issues.

A lot of research seems to have gone into the
article and all such a waste of time.

-Satya.

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  RE:Wrong Choices!
by manofsan on May 12, 2005 03:11 AM   Permalink
Satya's response is a defense of sectarian feudalism. A country has to have a single set of laws, and not some rigged patchwork. There has to be separation of Church and State, and not sectarian appeasement. As predicted, people like Satya can only respond with accusations of communal motivation, and unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. If everyone drives on the road together, then you can't have one person following one type of traffic law and another person following a different type of traffic law. Smash-ups will result. A Uniform Traffic Code is an example of a Uniform Civil Code.

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  RE:Wrong Choices!
by Sriram vanamamalai on May 13, 2005 06:08 PM   Permalink
No one is debating about having uniform code for Hindus and uniform code for muslims We are talking about having Uniform code for Indians. Does any one understand the meaning of the word Indian? Who cares if you are a muslim or a Hindu be what you are in your home and in your place of worship but outside be an Indian? is that too much to ask for? Why fight over religon and faith? Both religions have practises which are deplorable. Like Sati is not good same way the muhharam( May be I am wrong with the term here) when the muslims inflict pain on themselves is also bad.

Ms ruby and Mr naushad question the differences in Hindu culture. First of branding hinduism as a religion is ignorance hindusim is a faith. It does not have any hard and fast rule. It deeply beileves in karma. It is never said any where that you have to do this or that. Its people who brought in these practises. Questioning those are good. In Islam I believe there are hard and fast rules. So I again appeal to all INDIANS to accept UCC as our guide. let there be unity in the name of country.
Sriram

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  RE:Wrong Choices!
by Ruby Nishat on May 12, 2005 03:58 PM   Permalink
Instead of addressing the points raised by me most of the comments are beating towards the bush. Point out the weaknesses in the Muslim Personal Law. I am of the firm belief that each one will be answered logically and scientifically.

One need to brush up one's knowledge as regards the practice of Sati. This is not the place to quote from Hindu scriptures. Has one forgotten the Sati controversy when none other than Vijay Raje Scindia of VHP sat in for dharna in favour of Sati. Now don't say that VHP is an Muslim agent!


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  RE:Wrong Choices!
by Md Naushad on May 16, 2005 01:03 PM   Permalink
It has been alleged that I aspire to migrate to other country. I take it very seriously. Where in my writing I have aspired so? It shows the level of so called tolerants in the society who are actually bent upon spreading ill-will in India and trying to break the secular fabric of society.

We Muslims, born in independent India, are Indian by birth and not by migration. we believe in Indian constitution which guarantees equal right of worship and way of life to each citizen at par. Those incomfortable with this basic concept of the constitution may surely migrate to any part of the world but not the believers of Indian cosntitution.

Md Naushad

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by sharfuddin on May 12, 2005 04:10 PM   Permalink
You say that we were really well off until Muslim invaded India. First of all Islam reached the coastal part of India much before the Muslim kigs were invited by the local Hindu kings to India. secondly, in what way India was well off. The dalits, comprising of 70% of Indian population, were put to death for reading or reciting a single sentence from the books then available in India. The land properties were confined to 10% of the landlords and kings.and so on....

Parde mein rahne do-parda na uthao.

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  RE:Wrong Choices!
by Ruby on May 17, 2005 03:10 PM   Permalink
govt should, first, cover all the communities under the list of schedule Caste, and not the Hindus alone. why this appeasement of Hindu SCs.

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  RE:Wrong Choices!
by Md Naushad on May 12, 2005 04:04 PM   Permalink
1. Ruby Nishat is not abusing but only responding to the allegation made against Muslim women. Being a citizen of India, a democratic state, she has all the right to protect her belief. she has not referred Hindu scriptures on women. That will open a pandora box.

2. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. And no Islamic sword is hanging around. Stories of forcible conversions are old. Talk in term of presence when every incident takes place before video coverage and media persons. Take, for example, the Meenakshipuram conversion where Dalits embrace Islam in masses. It is suffocating caste system in Hindu society which compels the dalits to embrace Islam, even at the cost of getting deprived the fancy benefits of reservation in jobs.


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