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Cry India! She is crying...
by SChaudhuri on Mar 22, 2005 05:07 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Dear Mr. Raman,

It is always very refreshing to read your articles. It includes lot of facts and sometimes a complete wrong conclusion drawn from it! After reading this article I scratched my head and screamed, what happened to the article I thought I was reading! This is like a perfect figure skater on ice suddenly launches herself in a tangent when people were least expecting it! You think this incidence has defamed India!! You have no idea then how much defamation was caused by the riots in Gujarat itself! Here I think exactly why the external intelligence kinds need to spend long parts of their life outside India before they can join such a job. You have no idea about the betrayal of Indians all over the world who believes in protection of every citizens right in India. You yourself followed the statements made by Modi. You will see that he has the arrogance of any corrupt or fanatics in Indian politics: he does not even think that Indian legal system could ever touch him! Where is the accountability that calls for justice without calling all NRI's anti-Hindu and unpatriotic!

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  RE:Cry India! She is crying...
by SChaudhuri on Mar 23, 2005 08:57 PM   Permalink
Why you care about Modi's right to a visa! Do you even know why a visa is granted! A visa is not a right but people of India irrespective of their belief, origin, caste has the right to be protected by highest elected officials. Loss of innocent's life need not be accepted without delevering justice to ALL the people concerned. Democracy does not win if you shelter/justify actions of a person with enormous power to stop such injustice just because he's a Gujarati or part of your political/religious belief system. US has every right to deny Modi visa as we have the right to deny visa based on a well laid out principles. I objected to the generalizations made by Mr. Raman. He has not got the US side of the facts right. In fact, he needs to name the names of Indian American lobby who tried to pass this decision. All I am saying, as a logical person, you lay concreate facts before jumping to cheap but popular diatribe. He can be better than that with years of experience on how governments abroad works. If he thinks Indian lobby is this strong in US, he's dreaming! There's more to it which may include us not backing down from India-Iran pipeline, Condoleeza Rice's visit and other things

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  RE:Cry India! She is crying...
by Indian on Mar 24, 2005 02:17 AM   Permalink
I think Mr. Chaudhuri was right in pointing out how incomparable a US visa denial and a genocide are in bringing about defamation to mother India. Every riot is a shame, but a meager visa denial can never be as painful as mass murder from a riot, speak about apples and oranges.

If one Indian stabs another Indian in the back with the help of a state government machinery, he is considered a patriot, a nationalist, a true Indian. And when such euphysms are used to describe a visa denial over an actual genocide, cry, the beloved country!


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  RE:Cry India! She is crying...
by suri on Mar 22, 2005 07:04 PM   Permalink
This is a typical reply of the chaps who have either blindly made up their minds and 'judged' and 'sentenced' one side or are obviously biased like many of the 'succulars' sound.

It is bullshit to say that ONLY these Gujarat riots defamed India. Every riot is a shame. But, there has never ever been such ochestration or opinion before. Such loud and unabated, planned are manipulated shouting of the same anti-Modi thing non stop. Why?

I think it is simply because the BJP and RSS and the lot care too much about India to criticise Rajive Gandhi or Nehru or others even if it gets India a bad name. And, the 'succulars' hate the BJP and gand because it is the only grouping that makes people seriously doubt the biased bullshit they have been spouting.

Suri

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  RE:Cry India! She is crying...
by Manoj on Mar 22, 2005 12:55 PM   Permalink
Mr Chaudhary, on what gorund you think US is doing its act> such as IRAQ, IRAN, KORIA...and now Arm sales to Libiya on the head of North Koria though it was done by their TRUSTED ally PAK!..so please do not teach us lession on liberty. HINDUS across gloab has been treated badly cause we can never stand untied on any front still we have never shown agression in our entire history..and the same has been exploited in full..have you seen GODHRA TRAIN when it was buring? why the popel of GODHRA fought with police who came to capture the cupplrits? there can be thousands question on this and one of them could be that the riots were wrong...yes stand alone they were wrong but then there could be thousand reason to justify them also....

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