Why should we south asian believe any western and ME prophetism. They told god has sent the prophet then why any prophet did not came to South and far east asia. Why southa asian should belive in fairytale created some far distance.
RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
The business of "Prophet" was started by Moses. He was murderer from Egypt hiding in the hills of Sinai. He fooled the Israelites. The same tradition was continued by Jesus and Muhammed. Quran is a plagrised version of The Old Testament (Torah).
RE:The story of god
by shakil ansari on Jul 10, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
JGN WHAT ABOUT UR OWN RELIGION HINDUISM WHERE A PERSON PUT HIS WIFE ON BET AND HE LOOSES AND IN CONSEQENSE OF THAT THAT WOMEN DROPDI IS HUMILIATED.STILL THAT FELLOW IS CALLED A DRAMRAJ CAN U EXPLAIN IT THERE IS NO HISTORICAL PROOF OF MOOSES AS MURDERER IF SO SATISFY US
RE:The story of god
by CaptJackSparrow on Jul 10, 2008 02:28 PM Permalink
Dear hinduism is very big religion and so many people following it by full heart. If any single people like yudhisthir did mistake for that you cant put all hindu on fire. If you ask i will show you so many this kind example of the people from your community,
RE:RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 05:08 PM Permalink
According to the book of Exodus, Moses was born to a Hebrew mother who hid him when a Pharaoh ordered all newborn Hebrew boys to be killed, and ended up being adopted into the Egyptian royal family.
After killing an Egyptian slave master, he fled and became a shepherd, and was later commanded by God to deliver the Hebrews from slavery.
RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:27 PM Permalink
You are quoting something written in a story. Mahabharati is an Epic (story) and as mentioned below also, the incidents mentioned therein existed only in the imagtination of the author.
The Author of Mahabharata was partial to one family. As per modern civil laws, the Pandavas were not even eligible to rule to Kingdom as Pandu was ruling on behalf of his elder brother (Dritarashtra) as he was blind.
Pl do not try to justify historical truth with something written in stories.
RE:RE:The story of god
by Rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
Mr.JGN,What you read is not important. You must understand the delicate intricancies to apprecaiate the perfection attained in narration. Anyways there are many people who have written it in many ways. Each of them have their own heros. One such version is written by Shri SL Bairappa as "para" kannada translated into 14 languages more realistically.
RE:RE:The story of god
by Rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 02:37 PM Permalink
Also Pandavas were ready to settle for least he could do for them. But he snatched back their kingdom & after that failed to return as promised. Do'nt comment without understanding.
RE:RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
Dear Rationalist, why should I justify something written in an Epic? Mahabharata is a good epic containing some good morals and universal truth. I do not read anything more into that.
RE:RE:The story of god
by Rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 02:54 PM Permalink
Mr.JGN,No need to justify.It is not important what you read into it. But to understand wrt to the situation during those periord which was more liberal in thinking without any man made rules, but based only on fairness.
RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:54 PM Permalink
Rationalist, are you talkig about Veda Vyasa's Mahabharata? If so, Pandu was ruling on behalf of Dritarashtra. Both were sons of Veda Vyasa born to Amba and Ambika. The third brother (rather half-brother is Vidura - born to the maid of one of them).
The story in the form of narration by Vaisampayana at the funeral of Parikshit, the last Kind of Kuru Vamsa.
RE:RE:The story of god
by Rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 02:59 PM Permalink
You are absolutely wrong. Dritirastra never ascended the throne before as he was blind he was never eligible.It was only when Pandu decides to leave for salvation to Himalayas when names him as the king till time he returns.
RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>>>Pandu decides to leave for salvation to Himalayas............pandu did not leave for Himalayas............he died due to the curse of a Rishi.........Madri committed Sati along with him........hope you know the reason.............so not eleborating.
RE:RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
Pl download and read The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at Project Gutenberg. He has vividly described the "noble works" done in the name of religions.
RE:The story of god
by raghav on Jul 10, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
JGN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT U ARE ATHIST BUT STILL U KEEP ON CRITISISING ISLAM,CHRISTNITY,MOSES WHY DONT U TAKE CARE ILLS IN UR RELIGION WHICH IS PLAGUED BY SATI WHICH IS STILL PRACTICE ALBIET SECREATLY,TANTRIC KILLING AND OTHER FORMS OF SOCIALL EVIL
RE:RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
I do not beleive in the dogmas of any religion. Even if I do not beleive in any god, I can still be a hindu. No high-priest can declare me a non-hindu.
Every one of us should get rid of the outdated religius dogmas.
And of course, I would contradict any one ridiculing our native culture as I know for sure what are the loop holes in Christianity and Islam.
RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 03:11 PM Permalink
Dear shakil ansari, I am hailing a place where we have nearly 20% muslims. I know your customs and practices very well. There are many "babas" etc doing black magic. Some "belgali babas" are very active even in places like Mumbai, Pune, etc.
In our naive place there was custom called "writing on the plate" Here the Maulavi writes something in Arbic on a ceramic plate and the devotee drinks water from that plate soon after.
I have even seen many Muslims offering oil for lamps, etc in many temples (similarly the hindus also go to Dargah, etc and offer prayers).
We all share the same ethnicity, customs, practices, etc. We are closer to you than the Arabs. Then why do you want to treat the hindus as your enemies?
RE:The story of god
by DAWA JACOB on Jul 10, 2008 05:41 PM Permalink
am a believer in Christ(his principles of peace) but i thin JGN has made a great point...atheism is not responsible for any blood shed in the history of humanity...but religions has a blood stained history...all religious books(quran,bible,geeta)all are tampered with n structured in a way to narrow our vision against fellow human being...it applies 2 all religions...
RE:RE:The story of god
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:43 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>TANTRIC KILLING ..........even muslims practice the same. A few moths I had seen on a current affairs programme of IndiaTV about a muslim woman from UP killing her son of about 17 years and another child of about 4 years or so at the instance of some "baba" for peace and prosperity in her family!!!!!!!!!!! Why do you want to segregate people on the basis of caste, creed, colour, religion, region, etc?
Though I question the superstitions in every faith, I do not harbour hatred for the followers of any religion. I have personally helpped many Christians and Muslims, may be more than hindus.
