RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
Mr.balaord, forget about dress code. Woemn are treated just as s*ex objects in Islam. There are enough Quranic verses to prove this. Do you want me to quote them? The muslim women are not allowed to go out without the Company of a male relative in Saudi and other Islamic countries. Is this practical in the 21st century?
Do you think that the male members just pounce on the females who do not wear the Burqua in all other societies around the world?
Some time back I had hear Ms. Rakshanda Khan telling on a reality show that even wearing Burqua is of no use as people just stare at the burqua clad woman and imagine what lies inside!!!!!!
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Majed Ali on Jul 10, 2008 01:00 PM Permalink
Dear JGN, There are enough Quranic verses that say men and women are equal. Islam cannot survive for 50 years if women in Islam decide that. Infact women are more religious than men. My remember my mother used to be more strict about religon than my father. My sister and wife offer more prayers than I do. Women are the base of our society the day we lose their loyalty we will lose our religion. So stop spreading this nonsense. You are not going win anything out of hate mongering.
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:05 PM Permalink
The Quran is a book containing contradictory verses. While the good muslims quote the good verses, the Mullahs quote the hate-filled verses and brainwash the impressionable youth to "fight in the cause of Allah"!!
The Paradise stocked with abundant supply of "wine, women, water, fruits, etc" existed only in the fertile imaginatin of some sur-realistic visionary. The poor fellow could imagine about things available in plenty on planet earth even in the "Paradise" !!!!!!!!!
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:17 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>We muslims belive earth,heavens and averything in between is a creation of GOD............I am not under any compulsion to believe in such absurdities. Then why the GOD had not created "one religion" for all to follow? Why there are over 2000 religions the world over and hundreds of sects in some of them?
When there are more inqualities on planet earth (geographically, economically, physically,etc) what makes you beleive that the GOD is going to treat every one "equally" in the life here-after?
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Braveheart on Jul 10, 2008 01:14 PM Permalink
Contradictory for foools who just try to be over smart...Its takes much brains even for scholars to interpret the exact Quranic verses.. And Hijab is bad only bcoz it is prescribed in Islam???WHo forces the muslim gals in Europe to wear headscarves??
RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:19 PM Permalink
Braveheart, pl search for The Skeptics Annotated Bible for category-wise verses like Absurdities, Contradictions, Hatred, Good-stuff, etc from The Bible, The Quran and The Book of Mormon. Pl read them and understand for yourself. The Qruan in inheently violent.
RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:37 PM Permalink
Braveheart, I have read 2 versions (English translations) of The Quran and know for sure what its contents are. Anyone can get a copy of The Quran free from Project Gutenberg. Pl read in a language you fully understand rather than depneding on somebody else's interpretation.
RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Braveheart on Jul 10, 2008 01:31 PM Permalink
Hi JGN..the problem wid u is u dont have any knowledge(of urs) abt truth...just google search...if this is banned,u might suffocate!! Let em tell u onething...read material which is genuine...I cant go thro anything posted by anyone...If u search ur net,u can cum across hundreds of bibles each wid a different meaning!!!Morever,everyone knows media!
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:13 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>peer reviewed??????? I had given you an equally stunning example of Barbara Waltz and Uri Geller!
Nobody is aksing for roaming without dress, but any dess that is modest is enough. It need not be a back veil.
RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Braveheart on Jul 10, 2008 01:21 PM Permalink
WELL ITS UPTO WOMEN TO DECIDE WHICH DRESS IS GUD FOR THEM...WHY R U WORRYING SO MUCH???...SOME WOMEN LIKE HIJAB SO THEY FOLLOW IT...SOME DONT LIKE...THEY DONT FOLLOW...HIJAB IS PRESCRIBED IN ISLAM WITH SUITABLE NORMS...FOR UR KNOWLEDGE,VIEL IS NOT A PART OF HIJAB...SOME WOMEN LIKE VIELS N SOME NOT.... LET THEM HAVE THE FREEDOM TO WEAR WHAT THEY WANT....
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:27 PM Permalink
Braveheart, I really do not care for such things. My reply was to Mr. Balaord who was trying to justify the same.
One of the enduring memory of childhood is of little muslim girls going to school wearing Green skirt, cream coloured shirts & wearing Green coloured head-scarves. Though I find it difficult to appreciate the black-veil (probably because it was an alien thing in my childhood), I do not differentiate between muslim women wearing head-scarves and those wearing other types of dresses.
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by shakil ansari on Jul 10, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
JGN WOMAN IN ISLAM IS TREATED DECENTLY UNLIKE DROPDI IN MAHABARATA WHO WAS FORSED TO MARRY AND SATTIS THE SEXUAL LUST OF FIVE MENS AGAINST HER WISHES
RE:RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 01:35 PM Permalink
They can't appreciate liberty of women as their minds are already set for curbing women's right as right. They always view it in their perspective & try to find fault in Draupadi's case.
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by raghav on Jul 10, 2008 01:42 PM Permalink
DONT EQATE LIBERTY WITH PROSTITUTION WILL U PART WITH UR WIFE IF YES THEN SUPPORT UR STATEMENT IF KNOW THAN DONT
RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:08 PM Permalink
>>>>>>>>>>UNLIKE DROPDI IN MAHABARATA..........Mahabharati is an Epic (story) and the incidents mentioned in the same are the imaginations of the author. No hindu woman is clamouring for having "five husbands like Panchali" while the muslims the world over want us to believe that The Quran is a divine revealation to be followed by every one till eternity.
Don't try to justify historical truth with what is written in some stories. Muhammed was a historical person who lived nearer to our time.
RE:RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Braveheart on Jul 10, 2008 01:16 PM Permalink
Tats wat we are trying to say...dont follow epics blindly...follow a person who existed on this planet...
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Rationalist on Jul 10, 2008 01:32 PM Permalink
Is the havoc created already by following your Historical person not enough?
RE:RE:RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 01:21 PM Permalink
I don't have to follow any one if his teachings do not find logical to me. I am no way inferior to a person who lived hundreds of years back nor do I have to believe in some book wirtten thousands of years back. There has been tremendous improvements in science and tehnology ever since.
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by rgopi on Jul 10, 2008 01:14 PM Permalink
The persian word AWRAT or woman means the female private parts hence it is meant to be covered top to toe, enough of your bullshit.
RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by Braveheart on Jul 10, 2008 01:24 PM Permalink
WHAT IS UR PROBLEM...SOMETHING stuck inuras*
RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by DAWA JACOB on Jul 10, 2008 01:52 PM Permalink
i fail to understand y we all are debating about what the religious books(quran,bible,gita) preach... they are old enough to be tampered with...if you all believe that these books still contain the original content..you all must be dreaming...all the religious books are tampered with to propogate a specific cultural ideologies...without any relation to its original meaning.
RE:RE:The Problem with the dresscode of women in Afghanistan
by JGN on Jul 10, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
The million dollar question is how to make the religious fanatics understand this simple truth.
