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innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by shaheed sant on Mar 11, 2008 11:30 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

2007 Top 35 patent performers:

Rank       Company        Patents
1       IBM        3148
2       Samsung        2725
3       Canon        1987
4       Matsushita        1941
5       Intel        1865
6       Microsoft        1637
7       Toshiba        1549
8       Sony        1481
9       Micron        1476
10       Hewlett-Packard 1470
11       Hitachi        1397
12       Fujitsu        1315
13       Seiko Epson        1208
14       General Electric 914
15       Infineon Technologies 856
16       Denso        803
17       Texas Instruments 752
18       Ricoh        728
19       Honda        719
20       Siemens        700
21       LG Electronics        684
22       Nokia        682
23       Sharp        667
24       Fujifilm        662
25       NEC        617
26       Sun Microsystems 610
27       Cisco        582
28       Bosch        569
29       Koninklijke Philips 560
30       Honeywell        539
31       Broadcom        533
31       Silverbrook        533
33       Xerox        517
33       Renesas Technology 517
35       Eastman Kodak        493

did we see Google here?

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by Krishna Reddy on Mar 14, 2008 12:38 AM   Permalink
.. Contd from my prev reply]
There are 2 kinds of successful business models:

1) Proprietary model: E.g. Microsoft.
This is basically making money by unfairly suppressing/crushing end customers (Microsoft charges about $70 per PC for a stupid Operating system, while Linux gives a much superior OS at free of cost) and stealing other companys' (E.g. Apple) products and patenting them.
Microsoft will no longer prosper unless it changes its strategy drastically within next 3 years)

2) Empowering model (Valid esp for media businesses) : E.g. Google.
Google makes money by empowering people (End customers/employees/corporate clients/vendors)
thru Innovative products like unbiased information(i.e. Search. Google doesn't manually control search results nor does it place its own sponsor sites on top in normal search results), making money by letting people make money(Adsense), allowing sponsors to make money(Adwords), allowing people to creatively express themselves (innovative products like Orkut/Blogger/Picassa/hudreds of free API's/Feeds/iGoogle/Google Gadgets/Google maps etc etc)

So I conclude that

Innovation = Not necessarily num of patents, but also (unpatented) empowering products!

So Google is one of the best innovators of today; Because it is knocking down all the competitors through fairest and most transperant business practices!

Further, I forecast that your "equation" will be totally outdated within next five years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
especially in this I

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by shaheed sant on Mar 14, 2008 06:11 PM   Permalink
people like you dreaming like that from the last 15 years. but most of the list is 3/4th same. yes google is a good company but that doesn't justify as of now as a top innovator with other companies who are far ahead today. wait and see puttar

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by Janak Porwal on Mar 13, 2008 12:00 PM   Permalink
1) Most of these companies have been there for many for decades, Google is relatively very new (infact I think Googles age is less than 1/2 of any otehr in the list)
2) Googles domain is very specific/restricted as compared to what you have listed. Getting a patent is not very easy in algorithms/software (may not be hard either). Infact, globally, in the area of data-mining (web search etc), I think we wouldn't have patents more than rate of 20/30 per year. I may be wrong but that my guess according to my knowledge of the field.

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by Sanjay Chawala on Mar 12, 2008 07:07 AM   Permalink
why I don't see Qualcomm here??? Qualcomm has much more patents than Broadcomm. This list is either incorrect or it has only considered the companies that participated into their survey.

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by shaheed sant on Mar 14, 2008 06:14 PM   Permalink
puttar see that mentioned list has 35 companies and it's list rolled out by US patents office. so your survey point is incorrect

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by infi neter on Mar 12, 2008 02:35 AM   Permalink
im not interested in google, why no single indian company here? this is not good... i want to see many indian companies here...

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by shaheed sant on Mar 12, 2008 02:58 AM   Permalink
you have to wait till 2020. good luck

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by vaibhav desai on Mar 12, 2008 09:54 PM   Permalink
dude u seem to be from pak... you will have to wait till eternity yet wont find a pak co in the list. poor country...

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by shaheed sant on Mar 14, 2008 06:00 PM   Permalink
do you know anything other than labeling people as pak? talk with some sense puttar

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