From 20% people in the rural area, the urban population would increase to 30% over the next decade and more over the next 3 decades, so the existing cities have no capacity to take more people (take a look at Mumbai, can it take a 50% increase in population in 10 years ? !). So instead of poking holes in the SEZ policy can all the anti SEZ people come up with a way to improve the nations infrastructure and urban amenities to take care of this growth in the urban population ? Life moves on, things evolve, sticking to the past will create more slums and Raigarh will be ovrwhelmed by slums in 15 years instead of a planned SEZ in 10 if some thought is not put into growing urban India in a planned manner
RE:Urbanisation
by Kavya Vuppala on Jul 18, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
Do you mean to say that people from Villages and farmers will come and stay in these most expensive apartments built by the so called SEZ's? SEZ's are not for common people. You would know the pain of a farmer only if some SEZ comes and takes away your land or house where ever you live. If the govt really wants to improve infra structure then there are 100 different ways not just booming up real estate for their own people's cause.
RE:Urbanisation
by Red Pascal on Jul 19, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
So will people from heaven come and stay in SEZ's ? Let's take a look at planned cities, are you saying that no one from a village stays in Bhubaneshwar, Chandigarh or Navi Mumbai ? Are people in SEZ's going to come from another planet ? Who is going to stay there ? How many people in India can afford the expensive flats ? SEZ will ensure planned growth of urban space unlike the haphazard current way. And Like mentioned above in the post- how about giving a solution ? How does one build better infrastructure ?
RE:Urbanisation
by Intel Inside Tanned Outside on Jul 19, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
Indian Urbanisation - The dont see the problem with the problem. Indian Urabanisation is a lopsided growth. A greedy, unplanned, unorganized (read thoughtless & mindless), un directed, even purposeless(!!) and still more sad(!!!) meaningless growth!?! Slums are a natural offshoot of urban development but India's down-towns- are not just small slums but are 'civilzations' by themselves. There are a lot of things going wrong, seriously here: No governance & unrealistic. Creating sattellite towns is not the same as creating sattelite slums. There is no limit on sky scrappers but there is a limit to the existing infrastructure & a way out for preparing to a 30% increase of urban population in the next 3 decades is not by creating SEZ around cities but by spreading these SEZ inside-far interior villages - speadout exclusively among the rural areas - in other words decentralization of industrial growth. Establishment of good infrastrucute across the lenght & breadth of rural India would solve the issue of Urbanization. Otherwise, be prepared for typical (Human) irrational growth of 50% increase in urban population in 10 years which is sheer displacement/movement of people & not real growth. Talk of Indian growth & development as missed the soul - India lives in villages & there is no infrastructure, growth opportunities in the villages & farmers continue to be either neglected or taken for a ride with schemes- India is heading for a civil war and U2. -kavin(dra) Mathi.
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by Red Pascal on Jul 19, 2007 07:44 PM Permalink
Well the world has gone through urbanisation, China is doing it , Japan has, Europe has and USA has ( urbanisation as the country grows). So 50% urban growth will happen as jobs do happen in Urban locations and not in villages and farming supports less of the population over time. The urban jobs are causing the economy to boom, , engines of growth are to be created that will give enough returns to enable overall improvement of the infrastructure. As to moving SEZ's to interiors, well Nandigram was not urban in any sense of the world. These protests are a part of the national Psyche and will continue no matter where you locate the SEZ. And what is this enlightened comment of creating sattelite towns is not the same as creating sattelite slums ? Of course it is not, and the Raigarh area will become a sattelite slum ( check out Kalyan, Dombivilli and Ulhasnagar to see unplanned growth) if the SEZ does not come out, and between the two one prefers sattelite towns/ SEZ's. Read today's ET, one needs 15 new cities the size of Delhi to take care of the conservative growth expected in Urban India. Where will this land come from ? The Sea ? Another planet perhaps ?
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by Intel Inside Tanned Outside on Jul 20, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
The world has not gone through urbanization, but the WEST has & 'FOLLOW ME'/(Copy Me) is what it says or ensures & that's what most nations are doing & especially India is hell bent on imitating/'going through' the 'wheel'. A mind of your own? ANY?? or is it 600 years of slavery has created too much inertia? to follow, but atleast do it properly, sincerely and completely for ('western') process driven -linear progression approach is neither understood nor implemented. Indians have shown the ability to acquire but poor or no implementation. Eventually it has to be mastered like the Japanese & Koreans did. Not to learn from mistakes, but repeating mistakes shows lack of intelligence or deeper problems in the psyche. Why do you need to create 15 new cities? - because ET(Economic Times) says so, giving ideas based on 'western models' and is that the Only(&)RIGHT solution?. The right thing to do is a MUST establishing infrastructure in the villages.The existing land is not used properly, so you propose a SEZ close to Mumbai Suburbs to create more slums, stress, etcetras!?!. How many Offices, Universities, etc's have any normal - real & INDIGENOUS 'town planning','Urban Management','Emergency or Disaster Management' & then take a good look at what the Municipal Corporations, Municipalities across India do in handling problems, and for research, planning & preparing for future. Talk of Implementing it gets worse as city becomes town & worst when its village administration - WakeUP.
