Yes Indian economy is booming. That´s great. But the government employees are so lazy and corrupt, do they require a raise? The country has lost a lot of wealth due to corruption and due to lazy attitude of the government employees. Why should they be given raise? Giving a raise would not stop them from being greedy.
RE:Is it required?
by Akhilesh Maurya on Jul 24, 2006 03:00 PM Permalink
One shiuld not forget that all gove employees are not corrupt..think about Egineers working in navratna psus like IOCl ,ongc bhel ntpc etc.. they are working hard as well as they are efficient.....
RE:Is it required?
by Anupkumar on Feb 10, 2006 07:01 PM Permalink
Hi, I am sure whatever statistics you have read is either skewed or it probably takes into account of all the ''Ameneties'' that our cabinet babus get. A simple graduate who takes some computer course and joins a software concern and simply do some database management earns easily above 10k and in few years he will be earning above 25k per month. Well, I have science graduate friends who are getting paid nearly 80k per month just after five years of experience for doing as per their own admission sundry work in the name of CRM. Now a PhD from IIT who joins our governments Atomic energy as a Scientist, how much do u think he gets. Blieve me my dear Rs.8000. And you want to compete with developed nations in R&D and what not!! Do you know how many experienced scientists and engineers have been pulled out of BARC, DRDO and ISRO by offer of huge pay by like of GE and Biocon?? Still some stupids (thats what others tell me) like me stay back with government research organisation..not because we have no takers..we have plentry, but becasue of something called internal satsifaction of working for the gov research centre.But I am not sure how long one will stay so when u see even a call
RE:Is it required?
by wildfish on Feb 10, 2006 06:51 PM Permalink
Yes you are absolutely right. Why not set a commission to monitor the performance of the GOVT employees. No body would do that. The union wont let it happen.. boss do something and then ask for a hike. Rule of the thumb no
RE:Is it required?-contn
by Anupkumar on Feb 10, 2006 07:09 PM Permalink
when even a call centre guy earns much higher and leads a better std of life. Please stop cribbing abt pay for gov employees. Its nothing, if u come in and see closely, its a pittance. What one has to insist is accountability. In research establishments you will see that the supporting staff is about four times higher in number than the scientists. Well, may be govt wanted to give more jobs, fine. But it has to make sure that they do the work they are supposed to. If you are paying to somebody make sure that you get back a solid contribution in terms of work from the employee. Instead, if one concentrates on reducing pay, you will be left only with monkeys in gov sector, becasue thats what u get when you pay peanuts. Already I am finding people raising eyebrows when we say we work for the government despipte our high qualifications, and I can already see this trend in the students coming out now, they find it stupidness to join a government service for this salary. By the way, I forgot to tell you..do you know how much our Padmasree awarded and internationally acclaimed scientists get paid, who are in their end of service??..not more than 25000 dear!
RE:Is it required?
by S K Paul on Jul 20, 2006 03:58 PM Permalink
I don't understand why there is hue and cry when the pay commissions are being set once in a decade. Most of the messages posted carry words like corrupt, inefficient, greedy etc. How many of you have come across such situations in your life with a central government employee? The behavioural attitude of employees have changed since last two decades. There are still certain areas where the employees can improve themselves but in most of the cases I hold the public responsible. A passenger without a confirmed ticket in a train tries to bribe a TTE and get the reservation done. We ourselves lure the employees to get our jobs done and to be done quickly. That way we rotten the system and blame the employees. There is a high percentage of employees who still have integrity, commitments in their jobs. As one rightly said, there are numerous examples where experienced beuracrats, scientists, engineers are leaving government jobs after completion of 20 years? How many citizens are aware of it? And do you know the reasons? Find for yourself. Private companies have numerous medical facilities?
RE:Is it required?
by k.karthik on Feb 10, 2006 09:57 AM Permalink
dear sunil, it seems that u have some kind of biasing against govt. employees.i do agree that some govt. employees are corrupt indeed but have u ever thought why they tend to be corrupt? the reason is that they are underpaid when compared to their private conterpart.for e.g a professional (engineer etc.,) working in a private concern with 2-3 years experience earns about 4-5 lakhs per annum whereas a govt. employee with similar exp. in a premium organisation(ISRO,BARC,HAL,NAL etc.,) earns only 2.5 lakhs/annum.
RE:Is it required?
by Nirmal on Jul 21, 2006 03:55 PM Permalink
First thing Pls. don't compare private jobs and government jobs. Before speaking about private company pay package u should consider 1. Risk Factor - no job guarntee 2. Work Load - do your work and get paid. 3. Nill Benefits (like subsidised goods etc. from canteen etc.) 4. Nill Post service bebifits - no concept of pension. 5. Ill-treatment by government authotities (in the form demanding bribes/comparitively hihg bribes etc.)
RE:Is it required?
by Arun on Feb 10, 2006 10:45 AM Permalink
Hi Mr. Sunil,
All Government employees are not corrupt. The number of sincere and hard-working government employees are quite large in number, because of whom, the government is functioning smoothly. Corruption is prevalent in all sectors, one cannot single out government employees. What do you have to say about politicians?
