It seems India is prodigious in producing crybaby intellectuals, whose claim to glory is just find defects with India, they are blinkered cant see good, cant remember good of India.
What goes un-answered by them is the true greatness of India which every one can see namely:
1> USA took more than 100 years to become developed; have we done badly in 60 years? With 30% of NASA & Silicon valley composed of Indians 2> India has instilled fears in developed countries through low cost high skilled work force. 3> Yes we Indians often do banter with each other even give galis as Tamils, Punjabis, Bengalis....... but unlike Europeans we never fought World Wars not even riots, our unity is from heart not forced
4> Unlike China where too millions are starving but bad news is hidden by Govt, here we have vibrant media which repors even a sneeze. Jessika Lal got her justice due public outcry.
Only a fool can compare India with USA or Europe who are 300 yrs plus old democracies while we are only 60 years.
And let it be clear that India is secular democracy due to choice of majority Hindus not due to force compulsion from minorities, but this stupid book worm does not seem to live in real world.
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by JM on Aug 28, 2007 05:08 AM Permalink
: Prashant Chakravarty, the west is ahead of us in most ways because they dont mind learning from others.
If India has to develop, we need to give up this ego and admit that we have a lot to learn from everyone.
Reg. "Only a fool can compare India with USA or Europe who are 300 yrs plus old democracies while we are only 60 years." if we have to develop, we have to compare with countries who are great.
If you want to improve in a particular field, compare yourself with the greatest.
Would you have been happier if India was compared to crappy countries rather than USA/Europe? I would have felt it is an insult not to compare India with USA/Europe?
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by jay krishnan on Aug 28, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
yes the west does learn from others. I will give them that. But they are adept at covering up the sources and putting their own brand name on it and fopping off as one more feather in their caps. They are dishonest in that respect. Many a thing that they have got inspiration from the wisdom of the east, they have conviniently masked and covered it to suit their appeasement of their own people. People like the inane author here can't see all the great things that India gave freely to the world for the past several thousands of years. In those days, greeks and other westerners from europe got all science and technology from India but transmitted through arabs. How else would they have gotten anything in those days ? And US is just a byproduct of that europe.
Inept and slavish self haters ( Mr. Guha you are justified in hating yourself but please don't try and arrogate your own slavish and despicable nature on the rest of us Indians who , unlike you, are proud of who we are. If you have constructive criticizm blended hand in hand alongside giving credit where it is due < which you have failed to do > then perhaps that's the way to bring about change. And do some soul searching and ask yourself. Are you writing this peice for the purpose of bringing about a positive change in Indians or is it aimed and geared for the sake of providing a feel good effect for the western audience who lap any such carping of others up owing to their own dismal record in treatment of humans.
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by JM on Aug 28, 2007 11:30 PM Permalink
: A thousand years back..million years back..whatever is bygone.
India was great and is still great!
But we need to provide 3 billion meals everyday to our population and what we did a thousand years back is not going to get these meals.
The sooner we open our eyes to reality, the better.
I work in a company now and I need to show results everyday. I cannot keep talking about the state-level rank I got in high school or even the good grades I got in Engg. That is yesterday. I need to show results today to feed myself tomorrow. The sooner I give up the hot-air anc concentrate on teh job in hand, the better it is for me!
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by JM on Aug 29, 2007 02:22 AM Permalink
: The "past torch for the present"? What if the past torch is impeding the present by filling our brains with hot-air? Since you have got personal with me, here goes..you seem to be from the older generation who sat in a govt. office in TN doing nothing just resting on the laurels of your "matric" and how great your father and uncles and how great your family history was.
Taj Mahal was built by labourers in conditions close to enslavement! Mr.Fossil, world has changed since then.
Nobody said throwing a few morsels of food is going to solve any problem and sure, it needs to be done in a sustained manner (thanks for quoting the irrelevant and the obvious). But what is the use of saying I was "great once upon a time" wasting time instead of saying "I need to improve, and improve constantly"
All Im saying is India is great, but lets not rest on history. Let us move forward and solve problems one by one. The first step to solving the problem is accepting that there is one.
It is gas-filled fools like you who have brought India to the condition where it is. Every time an Indian says "India needs to improve", idiots like you shoot back "India was great a thousand years back" wah!
History is important to learn lessons and correct them moving forward. You have twisted this by saying we need to rest (and laze) under the past glory forgetting the present and future.
Why is it mine and your problem to bring meals to Indians? You are indeed an idiot, I rest my case!
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by RamRamRam on Aug 27, 2007 05:12 PM Permalink
Prashant be cool. India will be the same even after 100 years. USA had great leaders who spent their life time to develop the country. The so called Leaders in India spent their life time on dividing people on Caste and Religion to maintain their vote bank. We cannot compare India with Europe or USA.
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by Anil C on Aug 30, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
all ur fingers are not the same. all countries are not identical. different countries face different challenges.
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by ashish on Aug 27, 2007 10:06 PM Permalink
prashant stop dreamin if india was so much like the us and europe ur fellow indians wudnt be migrating in large numbers to get out of india,simple
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by shayantan on Aug 28, 2007 12:27 AM Permalink
DUDE ... HAVE YOU HEARD OF REVERSE BRAIN-DRAIN ... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT ... I'M IN BOSTON AND HARVARD EDUCATED ... AND I'M GOING BACK
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by Sherlock Holmes on Aug 28, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
I doubt if an harvard educated indian would have enough time to even browse through these rediff columns. This guy is harvard educated in his dreams !
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by Anil C on Aug 30, 2007 12:41 AM Permalink
prashant.. what is soo much wrong in migrating. people move out in search of opportunities. if there is a chance to make money, a better livelihood then why shouldnt we do it. it is in the nature of life. this migration has been going on for ages now. doesnt have to do anything with the respect for the country.
