RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Robin Joseph on Jan 02, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
never tried that one... Thank you o great knowledge giver ! I also know that the gita says that no one's caste is determined by birth,It is based on the Gunas inherent in peoples%u2019 nature
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Shamita on Jan 02, 2008 03:59 PM Permalink
See lower caste people were those who did field work working out in the open sun, and hence they got dark skin.
People who did other work like studying vedas and other brainy work were not exposed to fierce sun, hence they got fair.
So in that era, if you would find a fairer person, you would naturally perceive him to be a brahmin and not a field labourer.
This is how fair skin = higher status came into being in India society. No relation to british or mughals, since they are a mere patch on indian history that stretches over 10,000 years, while these came only much much later.
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by on Jan 02, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
Exposure to sun gives your skin a tan, not a color! Do you know all the human race descends from a single black South African mother. During the course of time genetic mutations and cross hybridisation resulted in changes in facial features, color of skin etc. Environment had no role in it. That hypothesis was thrown out by scientists decades ago. Chanakaya, prime minister to Ashoka of Magadh was a dark-skinned brahmin, while his other minister Rakshash was fair-skinned. The colour of skin is in the genes and not related to environment or profession. My cleaning lady is fairly dark but her son is as fair as any gora.
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Shamita on Jan 02, 2008 04:01 PM Permalink
I also think when common Indians must have seen white europeans for the very first time in the middle ages, they would have though they were from some devo lok or paradise ..... in awe totally and staring and curious as who they were.
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Robin Joseph on Jan 02, 2008 04:10 PM Permalink
Thats a good point... about the devo lok and jazz... but ahh! you look at India through rather small eyes... consider the northern and north-eastern states... Fair skin always irrespective of working in the sun or not
Consider Coorgies from karnataka... greek descent... fair skin again !
Plus, and i quote "people who did other work like studying vedas and other brainy work were not exposed to fierce sun, hence they got fair" they got fair !!! GOT fair! are you deliberately typing these or are you tryin to figure out how many people notice !
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by Gokul Swamy on Jan 02, 2008 04:15 PM Permalink
I disagree. Most people in panjab were farmers/ field laborers and yet they are quite fair. Skin color has more to do with genetic make up and ancestry and not so much on the sun.
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Shamita on Jan 02, 2008 04:19 PM Permalink
Answer simple question why all super cold countries have people of VERY FAIR SKIN white and pink and why do all hot countries have dark skin ?
RE:RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Gokul Swamy on Jan 02, 2008 04:38 PM Permalink
Thats a result of natural selection and adaptation over millions of years. To suggest that placing an African male in Shimla will make him fair is ludicrous.
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Angel on Jan 02, 2008 05:41 PM Permalink
Shamita doesn't have any work I think! She's all over the place commenting with her ridiculous theories... haha
RE:RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by koblenz koblenz on Jan 02, 2008 07:14 PM Permalink
"blacks in america are fairer than those in somalia." TRUE, BUT because overwhelming blacks in America have some amount of European ancestry and thats the reason and not the over simplistic argument you are giving.
RE:RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Shamita on Jan 02, 2008 04:20 PM Permalink
In other words, why do countries which have minimal to no sun intensity have white skins and countries with fierce sun have darker skins.
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Robin Joseph on Jan 02, 2008 04:25 PM Permalink
are you trying to address my question of GOT FAIR ? or are you doing the tangential thing that you so like doing ?
RE:SHIVA PARVATI TALE
by Shamita on Jan 02, 2008 04:28 PM Permalink
what ha ha , dont be an ignorant idiot, Read about connection between melanin and hot sun and colour of the skin in wikipedia. LEARN something before opening your mouth.
Stay in Kashmir or Shimla for two months, and your skin colour will become fairer too.
When I lived in Himachal I was very much fair but then we all moved to UP and I have gotten dark.
