many ppl just type something from half analysis. there is no definite basis for comparing established institutions ... each will have their own strengths .. the legacy/donor enrollment in havard/mit is true .. same does not exist in iit which is also true... and nobody is idolising any university here... guys from both iits or mits have their strenghts from which many things can be learnt.
on the above article: yes that is a good perspective - we might not want "corruption catalysts" like funds or anything to come in the way of iits .. if corporates want to donate let them do .. not like mandatory funding which will obviously ask for atleast few reserved seats ...given the way things work in india, it is better that these instis are govt funded with donations from others.
RE:looking at the comments
by Jay Badri on Sep 12, 2007 08:21 PM Permalink
See what IIM alumni wrote like following.
Even for sons and daughters of CEO's is was an honor to be able to make it past an IIM. One such students told me that me that his family was full of people who had done their MBAs from assorted US Universities; but he was the first child in a generation to secure an admission to an IIM. I guess another student whose father was a traveling salesman would have been proud of his achievements; but this guy who was born with silver spoon in his mouth was even prouder for having done something which was considered impossible within family. Dont degrade urself,indians have a habit keeping his own down,never gives a hand or appreciates what he has,every human is unique,god created them so unique,consider him as 8th wonder of world.come out and think outside the box.appreciate,encourage,band and progress,team work,team work,u alone cant change world.our farmer brothers who r working in fields for 2 meals a day,they r also greatest gandhis who are keeping india alive by providing food.I can see that a small shop owner,paan shop owner is more smart than any harvard returnee here,he keeps his finances tight,interacts with customers.we descredit lallu,nobody is indisposable,he turned around railways,he is giving guest lectures in harvard.I have seen the story of a IIM grad from slums of Madras,he is making news.I truely feel that IIT or IIM are definitely wonders of education system.You see a young person,he need not be rich,can make it to I
RE:looking at the comments
by Sanjay Enselvan on Sep 12, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
We still have a long way to go-long way then we can cite the examples of Harvard and Duke.Until then please stop wasting time with such articles.The need of the hour is improving education and access to education and corruption free society.The author is talking about corruption -that too a fraction in Harvard and Duke.What she needs to notice is widespread inequality in Indian society and divisive politics and society.Our products are from this system and not the otherway.People end up in various institutions based on oppurtunities and other aspects-also there are great intititutions which do not bear brand names in India.We are talking about 2% population which can think of competing for IIts.what about others??Does it make sense to compare this little sample pick with international institutes.Being best means what?We need to comeout of frog in the well mentality.
RE:looking at the comments
by Jay Badri on Sep 12, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
Sanjay we r still poor country.Lot of our businessman will not pay taxes.what is wrong with having elite institutes like IITs,they set highest standards with whatever resources they have.They provide toughest means of entry,it is open to all.let them thrive,even we have REC's,PILANI type institutes when they hire in google,microsoft they r even seeing ur from IITs or Pilanis.It always matters,the barrier u set,u r supposed to innovate innovate,u r supposed keep ahead of tech always in IT also,u have a motivation to excel.India is no longer just routine outsourcing,even Texas Inst,Motorola started in 80s,they r doing cutting edge research in Tech,they r lead by highly motivated individuals from our elite institutes.Even cisco is setting R&D in bangalore,they r moving operations there,SAP,IBM in bigway started investing in India.Japan is ready to jump with us,over a time like china,leading edge technolgy will move to India,we need to step it up,Govt need to be alert now.Businessweek writes about India becoming 3rd leading economy in world.We have seen super highways constructed by 2012,telecomm revolution is going,internet explosion started,real estate is also exploding but we politician mafia to step it up,atleast take us to nextlevel.nothing wrong having more IITs,while mimicing atleast we will more talented people to manage coming boom.They r expecting shortage in skilled people by 2025.we shud step up intelligence,honesty from our politicians.We alone educated can do it?