Career growth, exposure, monetary gain etc are very subjective things and vary from person to person. There are few things one should look at before joining a company. 1. Ask yourself why you are changing your current company. If it's money, don't go to another company for mere 10-20% hike. If it's work, make sure that the work is good before joining. If it's your supervisor, do a thorough background search on your reporting manager in the next company before joining. 2. Have multiple offers and negotiate. Otherwise you would get heavily exploited. Don't get carried away by the HR talks of ensuring fairness among employees and offering you as per your strength. Recently when I was looking out, one giant MNC offered me the same salary that I was getting in my previous company just because I said my company was not doing well and I didn't have any other offer in hand. After that I went on to get couple of more offers, negotiated and got 70% hike in my salary in that company. So that's the kind of margin they have. 3. Make sure that you don't offend anybody while negotiating. Be nice and reply timely. Say you need some time to think about the offer in case you want to buy some time to check the other offers. And the toughest part is to say no to other companies once you have decided on one. Best practise is to send an email as soon as you make up your mind. If possible, go and meet the HR and explain why you have decided to join the other company. One argument that always works is that you have decided to stay back in the same company as they have addressed most of your issues. However if you are still in the mode of negotiating, tell them the truth. It works.
RE:offer A or B
by Evangelizer on Mar 21, 2007 05:40 PM Permalink
In Point 2 you are talking of the kind of 'Margin".. my dear friend.. you cannot look at a job as a commodity... Nobody has margins on compensation...
I dont think you are well informed... You are thinking that since you were honest you got less, but when you were dishonest you got more.... well.. that is not a good idea.. its better to be honest and upfront...and more importantly deal with tact and a bit of diplomacy to get what you want. You also first need to know what you want, only then you can try and get it..
RE:RE:offer A or B
by Attract Ivist on Mar 21, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
Companies do have a salary range that can be offered to a candidate. Apart from the candidate's skills, it also depends on various other factors like how soon they need a candidate, the nature of the industry etc. I don't think it has got aything to do with one's honesty, but it's more about what to inform them and what not. You tell them about your weakness/desperation and there is a high chance that you get exploited. Diplomacy is must for negotiation, but there can be no negitiation unless you have some burgaining power (in terms of having an alternate choice or unique skill). And finally knowing what you want is good, but if someone is offering you more than you expected, you should quietly except it :)
RE:RE:offer A or B
by Paramesh Waran on Mar 21, 2007 06:59 PM Permalink
Nobody is out there to oblige you. All employers try and exploit the perceived vulnerabilities and in a situation of demand and supply you are not wrong to hold out for the maximum possible. your service and the capabilities you bring to the job is in fact a commodity and you have to sell it for the maximum; of course, the maximum is a sum total of money and other intangibles. But, if it becomes evident that the company is trying to exploit you, you owe them nothing at all.
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by Manj u on Mar 21, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
It seems Evangelizer is in a mood of bashing. By the way have ever worked or do you have a decent job in your hand?? I doubt.
RE:offer A or B
by kapil thakur on Mar 21, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
very nicely explained. seems like coming from the mind of a person who knows how to deal with people and maintain relations. good going man.
