Assumption: "Kids (before they start going to schools) have the same level of intellect (IQ) irrespective of their caste"
If you dont agree with my assumption, then India should force inter-caste marriages to make the intellect of kids to be born the same. (just kidding...I know u agree with my assumption)
If you agree with my assumption, read on.
1. Parents should realize - Providing education to kids is not just govt's responsibility, it is parents responsibility too.
2. Govt. should make School education (till 10th grade) mandatory - this requires that the govt. should provide enough resources (not easy, but not impossible either) for quality school education.
3. Create awareness in students while they are in high schools (so, that they are mature enough to understand the seriousness of it), about the benefits of education beyond High school.
4. Students now are on par with each other in terms of 'awareness, and academic education' irrespective of castes? do u agree?
If you dont, u tell me, what went wrong?
If you do, read on.
5. For education beyond 10th grade, provide financial aid based only on financial status of the students. This would be a driving force in itself for students to aim for higher education.
6. Where do u see the need for caste based reservation now?
For Point 1. :---> What if parents themselves not educated ?? For Point 2. :---> From last 50 years (we r running our govt from last 50 years) this has not been happened. Most of the kids from well settled family goes to the private schools. What abt those who have not even have enough amt of money to feed there kids can dream to go to convents.....?? [90% backwards are economically poor and 5-10% open categories are economically poor the difference is huge...here u can say that there is need for reservation] For Point 3. :--> most of the backward students not even reach high school level, those who reach upto high school have so many responsibilities towards there family...for a matured guy studying in high school will never like his mother washing plates at someones home for mearly 200 bugs. For point 4. :----> this point dosent come in to picture if you consider point 3. still if some one makes it, there are many scenarios where u hv to mentally prepared urself for studies keeping aside the issues of family... For point 5. :----> This is very ideal scenario which can never be practically possible in India. For point 6. :----> You decide on it
RE:Ideas...
by KT on Jun 05, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
Pravin,
Thanks for ur questions..
For Point 1. :---> What if parents themselves not educated ??
The govt. has to enforce school education, that is why I said, education shud be made 'mandatory'
For Point 2. :---> From last 50 years (we r running our govt from last 50 years) this has not been happened. Most of the kids from well settled family goes to the private schools. What abt those who have not even have enough amt of money to feed there kids can dream to go to convents.....?? [90% backwards are economically poor and 5-10% open categories are economically poor the difference is huge...here u can say that there is need for reservation]
Govt. has failed for the past 50 odd years, agreed, does it mean, it would not be done in the coming years?
Private schools have better infrastructure, govt. schools need not aim for that level in terms of facilities, but can focus on quality education.
For Point 3. :--> most of the backward students not even reach high school level, those who reach upto high school have so many responsibilities towards there family...for a matured guy studying in high school will never like his mother washing plates at someones home for mearly 200 bugs.
dont mind me correcting u..but itz not 'bugs' it is 'bucks'..anywayz..my response is as under.
I agree about responsibilites, but, if they are aware that they'd make letz say few hundred Rs/mo with school education, where as they can make thousands with a graduate degree (whil
RE:RE:Ideas...
by KT on Jun 05, 2007 09:16 PM Permalink
Sorry...message got truncated...coz of its character length limitation..
anywayz...herez the remaining part of the message..
I agree about responsibilites, but, if they are aware that they'd make letz say few hundred Rs/mo with school education, where as they can make thousands with a graduate degree (while getting financial aid and working part time during school), would u still say, ppl wud not go for further education?
For point 4. :----> this point dosent come in to picture if you consider point 3. still if some one makes it, there are many scenarios where u hv to mentally prepared urself for studies keeping aside the issues of family...
I answered for Point 3, the same thing applies here.
For point 5. :----> This is very ideal scenario which can never be practically possible in India.
If the govt takes up initiatives like these, would the citizens not be willing to pay more taxes? and would the industry not support such an initiative?
For point 6. :----> You decide on it
All ur questions have been answered, the ball is in ur court.
RE:Ideas...
by Mukesh Garg on Jun 05, 2007 11:07 PM Permalink
Friends, very good points of discussion. In addition to the above mentioned by KT, I would like to add 1 thing. Practically, it won't be possible, for decades to come, to remove reservation completely. Having said that, if you look at current scenerio, lots of children of creamy layer do take advantage of the reservation policy. Now, who's loss is this? Its not a general category loss, coz their seats are fixed. Its the loss of poor people belonging to SC/ST/OBCs. Reservation policy, which was created for the benefit of those poor, actually benefits the creamy layer most. So, people need to understand that when we oppose creamy layer reservation, its for the benefit of Only and Only poor SC/ST/OBCs. So, till the time reservation remains in place, creamy layer must be excluded from it. Also, when creamy layer is excluded from reservation, then only politicians will take steps of real upliftment of poor. Until then, politicians and bureacrats will not take any such steps, coz they need to show that their caste is backward, so that their children can get benefits of reservation.
RE:RE:Ideas...
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
I think anything can be possible anywhere if we have a clear plan and work towards it. Difficult? yes. Impossible? Most certainly not.
RE:Ideas...
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
Good plan..now we'll have to wait for the implementation. And how do we go about things till this plan gets implemented?
RE:RE:Ideas...
by KT on Jun 05, 2007 08:50 PM Permalink
Sharath,
We should just think long term, if we want results in the immediate future, the communal harmony would be disturbed.
Assuming govt takes 2 years to get the infrastructure in place and then they make school education mandatory right away, we are looking at close to 12 years for the fresh breed of 'Equally Intellect and Aware' (EIA) to get out of schools.
The 'so called' upper castes have been 'suffering/ feeling discriminated' for 60 years now, do u think they wud mind if it is just for the next 12 years?
RE:Ideas...
by Sarath Chandra on Jun 05, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
KT, I respect your vision. I did not come across many people who understand immediate changes ("revolutions" in general terms) cause great discomfort and loss. Most people decide what is right and want it implemented instantaneously. That causes mostly injustice and doesn't serve the purpose. The best way to implement an idea in my view is to lead by personal example and talk about the idea in whatever interactions an individual has. Thanks for giving your views and hope to see you around.
