Just so all our Indian readers know, Craddock is a poor journalist at best, and not very respected by knowledgeable Australian readers. So responding to his article is about as pointless as it seems to try and get some objective discussion with some people going on here.... Yes I know I'll get deleted again.
RE:Craddock
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 07:19 PM Permalink
i'd say lets ban sledging, since ites the bone of contention for most of the teams, they are tired of aussie sledging. its not even funny. everytime someone reminds yu of yur parents the wrong way, yu get wild, not spirited, like the aussie claim. its stupid, yu wont even get it.
RE:Craddock
by on Jan 08, 2008 07:24 PM Permalink
Calvin, you've got to stop trying to provide a balanced view here. People don't want to hear it. Just say this is an issue based on race, Proctor and the ICC are in league with the Aussies, and Bajji is a saintly prince because his mother says so. Then your posts will stay up for more than five minutes.
RE:Craddock
by Calvin Corser on Jan 08, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
I can't believe you actually think that. There is no conspiracy out to get India, and the sooer you realise that the sooner things will likely turn out the better for you.
RE:RE:RE:Craddock
by Calvin Corser on Jan 08, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
That's a response to the ICC conspiracy theorist. As my previous post again got taken down, think I'm just going to leave you all to it. And hope that the facts present themselves in due time, and this doesn't just get swept under the carpet.
RE:RE:Craddock
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 07:51 PM Permalink
well, imnot sure about the conspiracy part. indians dont have a dossier that says win at all costs. aussie team is very united, yu dont even have to call each other to support each other. its totally not convincing that ponting after all those years of cricket can claim he doesnt know if he's grassed it (actually he sad he was SURe he dint grass it). what a bunch of bull, ive been playing cricket since i was a kid, although im not even a city level player :P i know fully well, all the times, that once yu grass it, yu are in doubt. i feel ponting's a liar. same with clarke. i coudlnt believe it when gilchrist (my idol for all these years) said that too. this denial in unison is too much to take.
RE:Craddock
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 07:18 PM Permalink
take heart. panickar is not a mainstream journalist either. rediff has only the eyeballs of the web surfers. and as yu know website has a lot of venom than on newspapers. so yu need to know that its not only here, its probably in australia too or the rest of the world. besides, indians feel hard done by - for all that i dont wan to repeat again and again. but the more yu are at it. the worse the aussie indian relation will be.
RE:RE:Craddock
by Calvin Corser on Jan 08, 2008 07:33 PM Permalink
Cheers Raj, I'm not naive or stupid enough to believe all Indians don't want to see the whole facts, not just a biased view. Just as I'm sure you're aware all Australians aren't the same either. A past Australian cricket team was responsible for the most appalling thing ever said on a cricket field that I've ever heard of (spoken to a newzealander, but denied by Asutralia). Also in this case I'm certainly not defending all they've done, but wanted to try and point out a few missing facts, that I thought were fairly relevant. And I'm sure anyone I'd be interested in speaking to got that.
RE:RE:RE:Craddock
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 07:47 PM Permalink
im different from the rest of the angry indians here, who are charged up and either reporting yu for abuse. i'm clear about the indian point of view. i read and opine in the aussie boards too. point is, obviously both are pretty darn stubborn about their points of view. just as you claim yu are right. the perception is a whole lot different on the other side. india is the most complec country in the worls, so many cultures, so many castes, creed, divisions. they just DONT get the abusive sledging for one. next australia welcomes people from all over the world, they are good hosts too, i have friends in australia studying. i wanted to come to australia for a visit. im kinda disappointed with the rabid nationalism so uncharacteristic of the aussie. well, im kinda giving up. i cant get my point across, im tired.
