Firstly, clarification: 1. Gilchrist walked after Shepherd said "not out" in the WC semi-final against Sri Lanka. 2. Gilchrist has walked each and every time he has been out since that time (never disproved) 3. Gilchrist has said that if he KNOWS he's out, he will walk. 4. That said, a batsman doesn't necessarily know every time he's out (ie when a batsman hits their pad at the same time as the ball, or an attempted hook shot which may or may not flick the glove ever so slightly). 5. When wicketkeeping - Gilchrist has said that if he doesn't see an edge or hear a noise, then he doesn't really appeal. 6. Gilchrist has said that if HE IS NOT SURE, then he asks the question and leaves it to the umpire. 7. Picture a player on day 5 of an emotionally draining, tense, frustrating test match, chasing an improbable victory. Dravid tucks the bat in and in the blink of Gilchrist's eye, there is some sort of noise which everyone hears and he goes up. 8. Again, incompetence gets the decision wrong, and I'm sure Gilly looked at the replay afterwards in slow motion and wasn't over the moon. But again, the same point is made - he wasn't sure so he asked the question and relied on the umpires (shock horror gasp) to do their job.
Give the man a break and don't use him as a patsy in your arguments of convenience.
RE:Gilchrist
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 08:01 PM Permalink
i dont question his past. this man can make a mistake along with his team mates. he said conveniently that he'd leave it to an umpire. he's neither right nor wrong. he left it to a man with whom he'd take a chance.
RE:RE:Gilchrist
by on Jan 08, 2008 08:05 PM Permalink
mmspm - you must be a mind-reader - you know that he knew so clearly that the ball didn't touch the bat?
Don't tell me you are also the one who received the non-existent SMS text message from Sachin saying Harbhajan was 100% innocent and that the series shouldn't continue until he was freed on appeal?
RE:Gilchrist
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 08:08 PM Permalink
dude, indians arent an organised sledging mafia like the aussie team. they also have gags on them . also there's a lot of politics going on in the team forever. point is why did proctor listen to only the aussie team ?
RE:Gilchrist
by mmspm on Jan 08, 2008 08:10 PM Permalink
yes i am a mind reader, be careful. and i know u & ur parents why u ppl r settled in India.
just wanna give a small suggestion to u, better pretend urs conversion operation (religion conversion) within kerala borders only. Until sickular govt. loose footage in Kerala
RE:Gilchrist
by on Jan 08, 2008 08:19 PM Permalink
MMSPM, only mildly confused by your last comment. Either you haven't taken your medication, or I've taken too much.
I'd love to discuss it with you further, but since I live 10000 kilometres away in Australia in a functioning SECULAR democracy, it could be somewhat diffcult!
I was trying to respond with a modicum of civility, but I'm sure you're only embarassing yourself in front of your fellow patriots now, so I'll leave you holding the spade and show you where to dig! Cheers Michael
RE:Gilchrist
by on Jan 08, 2008 08:07 PM Permalink
How do you know that??? Day five of a test and everyone, including the umpires, are drain. Gilchrist heard a noise and appealed. It's the umpire's job to judge. Kumble appealed for an LBW in the second innings that was hit to mid on. Is he cheat? According to your argument he is! Justify that!
RE:RE:Gilchrist
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 08:45 PM Permalink
lbw's can be dodgy, but when the bat was tucked behind the pad, bucknor giving out is not as bad as the keeper shouting!
RE:Gilchrist
by on Jan 08, 2008 08:03 PM Permalink
mmspm is clearly symptomatic of the greater malaise affecting Indian cricket.
If analytical reading is within your ability, please read point 7 - it's fairly self-explanatory.
But yes, Raj, I can agree that as the mind disintegrates (and it does in a 5 day match as tense as this one), you're far more likely to go up for an appeal because you hear a noise, and not process everything in your own head as to whether it's a valid appeal or not!
RE:Gilchrist
by Calvin Corser on Jan 08, 2008 08:27 PM Permalink
To the guys using the Mr Monkey Michael's here. You do your country proud??? This is exactly the thing that leads to this situation happening in the first place.
RE:Gilchrist
by Calvin Corser on Jan 08, 2008 08:34 PM Permalink
You're making some friends here Michael... I'm gutted now, I haven't been really abused so far, i just lose my posts. but calling you Monkey Michael seems to be ok by everyone???
RE:Gilchrist
by raj on Jan 08, 2008 08:44 PM Permalink
people sure have reported abuse for that gentleman. check the pages. since quite some time now. its not that instant though!
