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by Amar Kumar on Jan 09, 2008 02:52 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

The word Monkey is indeed a racial slur.

A US senator called an Indian guy SR Siddarth as Macaca (Monkey) last year and he was reprimanded severely. In fact he lost the elections due to this.

So Harbhajan should be suspended.

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by Ravinder Rana on Jan 09, 2008 03:22 AM   Permalink
Suspended if he has said it. Please do not pass judgement without varifying the facts.

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by on Jan 09, 2008 08:20 AM   Permalink
it has to be proven that Bhajji called Symonds a monkey - don't put the cart before the horse Mr. High and Mighty holier than thou Amar Kumar

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by Deep Indian on Jan 09, 2008 04:18 AM   Permalink
What race does a monkey belong to? Would calling a deer or a rabbit also amount to racism?

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by Bob Hair on Jan 09, 2008 06:29 AM   Permalink
Deep Indian
The term "Monkey" has a history - it is a term rabid white supremacists in Europe use against black Africans, particularly in football. That fact is known and understood by the Indian players, and the pejorative and racial connotation is demonstrated in many of the posts on this site (which thankfully tend to be removed fairly quickly).
Like everyone else, including Prem, I don't know what the process was and whether it was fair. (If it wasn't, that in itself will almost certainly result in the appeal being upheld). If Symonds (and Clarke?) actually heard the comment, it is not as a matter of legal definition hearsay and is direct evidence - it gets down to the strength of the evidence (the credibility of the witnesses is but one factor - what they actually say is just as significant).
Let us hope that whatever the outcome, it is transparent and the process is demonstrably fair - and let's get back to cricket as a sport.
Bob

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by Rahul on Jan 09, 2008 03:29 AM   Permalink
from whats heard in media

Symonds: He called me monkey
Harbhajan: I didnt
No other witnesses no umpires,no microphone, no players are sure if that word was used

In this case benefit of doubt. Harbhajan innocent...at the maximum given warning....3 match suspension is too much


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  RE:Macaca
by Onlooker on Jan 09, 2008 03:40 AM   Permalink
Basically he lied then. Technically he need another one to confirm that too. Anyways now, what makes me think so now is his mother's reaction. If he was truly innocent, his mother would have said he did not use the monkey word and that he son was punished for something he didn't do. Instead she was looking for some sort of punishment for Symonds too which (injustice) is what she couldn't accept. This is circumstancial but then that is how people would go by when investigate.

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  RE:Macaca
by Deep Indian on Jan 09, 2008 04:17 AM   Permalink
Onlooker...you seem to be an aussie buttlicker and that is confirmed....

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by Onlooker on Jan 09, 2008 03:27 AM   Permalink
I agree.
Mr Panicker says Harbhajan has already admitted to using that M-word in another instance. That itself is good enough to bring a conviction against him.

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