did you all see the mockery Misbah made of our veryyyyy experienced bhajji???? he was hitting 6s out of fun and wherever he wanted..!! it was shameful .. bhajji almost let india down..
and thanks to Misbah for playing that ridiculus shot when he could have clearly taken pak to victory..
WE DIDNT WIN THE MATCH... PAKISTAN LOST IT FOR US..!!
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by J Busu on Sep 26, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
Nitin Gupta, "We didn't win the match...Pakistan lost it for us" is one way of looking at it. We can also look at it this way that the match which we could have won hands down as 52 runs were required of 24 balls, it was Harbhajan Sing's stupid bowling which almost cost us the match. The Pakis were able to close the gap from 52 to 13 of 6 balls in no time. If this stupid Harbhajan had bowled normally without trying to bowl yorkers etc., and ended up bowling full tosses, the Pakis could not have scored that many runs. One can say that we won the match in spite of Harbhajan's stupidity. We were never going to loose the match. With the Pakis bringing in the Almighty at the drop of every other word, it was only a matter of time before the Almighty did it in for them!
I am an Indian Muslim and an ardent support of our national team. Yes, it is indeed a hard-fought victory. But, let's not forget that every indian's heart was pumping more oxigen until the time Misbah-ul-Haq opted to scoop and gave us victory. It was our day and it is our destiny that we won and I agree with you that Pakistan was never in the hunt after losing 7 wickets. But, let's also not foget that they were close to victory and anything would have been possible. If we won the match (despite Joginder's inexperience), because of our cricketing abilities, then, why did we lose the match in Sharjah final 1986 when Pakistan required 4 runs for the last ball and Chetan Sharma - trying to bowl a yorker, ended up bowling a full toss which was hit for a six. The loss of that match were behind our memories and which created low-confidence in every Indian cricketer's mind that we cannot win against Pakistan. Thank God that such jinx has come to an end. Hence, I would say that India did not win the match - destiny had its final say. Now, I expect yours' and Nitin Gupta's comments.
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by Haseena Khatun on Sep 26, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
I am a Muslim woman married to a longtime Hindu boyfriend. We have two kids and we teach them the good things in both Islam and Hinduism. As a Muslim woman (though I have not converted to Hinduism, our children are Hindus), I feel we should change our mindset. Had the Muslims behaved the same way had a Muslim girl married a Hindu boy? As a Muslim woman I know, what kind of difficulties I had to face. Today, I am disowned by my own parents. Why do Muslims have different scales for same incidents? My parents were unable to find a single qualified groom for me. I come from an Ansari family, and most of the prospective grooms that my father thought of, were not so well educated. I just want to say that I love my Hindu husband, and the culture he carries with him. Good and bad are evry where, but as a Muslim I feel our religion needs reformation. We have too many fundamentalists in our faith.
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by santosh jha on Sep 26, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
Hi Haseena, Let me first congratulate you for being what you are.I won't praise you for the fact that u married a hindu or a muslim guy.I would praise u for the fact that irrelevant of your caste u r giving the country the best a woman can.By giving your children the best of values of both hinduism and islam,u r actually giving 2 bright and liberated citizens to the country.Kudos to that.People like you can make our country the current Indian cricket team, wherein muslims are all Irfan Pathan and hindus R.P. Singh, both taking 3 wickets each and making the country win the world cup of development. Congratulations once again.
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by J Busu on Sep 26, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Haseena and Santosh Jha:can you name just one thing which is good about 'slam? Just one good thing about it. I will be very happy to carry forward this debate if you can only come out with just one evidence of something which is good about it which is not to be found in other faiths. Just one. Only one.
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by Vijay Menon on Sep 26, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Dear Busu, your question can be put vice-versa as well. All religions in essence teach good. It is us who infect our minds with poison. As I said earlier - "To each, his own!". A debate has no meaning because Haseena has put Humanism before other things. Do you have it in you to marry a girl from another religion and still let her be? It is a tough call gentleman. Easy to write words, very difficult to live through it. Better a better citizen and contribute positively to our society in your own way. with earnest best wishes, a fellow citizen.
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by santosh jha on Sep 26, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
Dear J busu, U got it wrong mate. I never appreciated Islam and just because I am an ardent Hindu I would not malign it either.I as a hindu have learned to respect all religions.As for your question "can you name just one thing which is good about 'islam?" Well I would not be able to answer u b'coz i haven't studied islam much and I am not very concerned either.b'coz for me Humanity scores way above any religion.By the way I praised Haseena for her contribution to the country by giving good values to two of country's citizens and if only 50 % of us go on to do this, take it from me, India will have an all inclusive development with a gdp of over 11%. with no offence meant, Santosh jha.
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by roy jose on Sep 26, 2007 11:29 AM Permalink
Abbe Kapil yede, what is the use of fashting when 99% of the world's terrorits are Muslims ?
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by avasarala srinivas on Sep 26, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Mrs. Haseena I really appreciate your genuine feelings. We shd not get carried away with Religion. All religions teach good things only.Let religion not come into a peaceful human existance. Anything excessive is dangerous. I really agree with u that we shd change our mind set. Anyway good luck to you.
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by Rama Anand on Sep 26, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
i hope many people reading this would appreciate what you are saying and really work collectively towards a better community and country.
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by Anwar Pasha on Sep 26, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
I think you are a IAS and you Need IPS groom. thats why your father not able to find out a groom. Reformation of our releigion is not necessary. First you change your mind set.
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by ravi singh on Sep 26, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
Be a fundamentalist, thats what u want. She has already changed her mind set, now its your turn.
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by Venugopalan on Sep 26, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
you wrote "WE DIDNT WIN THE MATCH... PAKISTAN LOST IT FOR US". You are wrong, not only Pakistan but S.A.Australia, all did the same to us. We lost to NZ because of the same reason!! What a crazy logic???
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by roy jose on Sep 26, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
Nitin looks like a wolf in sheep's clothing. In other words, a Paki in Indian clothing. "Abbe yede, aaj tak Pakistan kabhi India ka bhala chaaha hai jo TT World Cup Final loose karega India ke liye ?"
