Symonds made runs just like any other player and he is putting in that racism incident to effect. That is their trick. They want us to think like that. The reason is symonds just batted and ended up making century. Indians especially tendulkar and ganguly are always worried of personal milestones and never get 100 and waste balls. This is true for the start of the time they are playing. Steve Waugh has 2 centuries and one of them is the best ever you will see. Teamwork is important. I think Dhoni is smart enough without being told about the teamwork. When Dhoni captained India I thought things have changed but we are back to square one. Thanks to politics: announcing crores of rupees to players when 75% of the nation cannot manage to get 1 lakh per annum (just a guess not sure may be little less or more). In India, everything is showed off. Indian youngsters were playing for their country in 20-20 without anybody following them. Now they became famous they are dragged into media and kept under pressure. Plus they have to deal with stupid australians who think they are the greats. They are not. Nobody is a champion in world cricket it is just mental. Only steve waugh's men (still present in their team) is making the difference thats all. I have more to say and keep on saying until somebody takes action and start regrouping. We are the best talent available in the world but consider others like chappell to coach our team how riduculous. We should have one all the games.
RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by ramesh iyer on Oct 16, 2007 02:21 AM Permalink
Brijesh I liked your thoughts but I am afraid I have to differ on subtle points. To me this present Australian Team is one of the greatest teams in Sports History. This team has been consistently demolishing opponents and they taste defeat once in 15 to 20 ODIs. Thats a remarkable winning rate. You name any other team which comes close - then I would agree this team is not the greatest. No matter what their middle overs score is, eventually they end up scoring 300 plus and that really puts a mental block and pressure straightaway on teh opposition. To me these are the reasons for their success. 1) Every body's place in the team is not at all guaranteed. There are hundres of Pontings, Gilchrists and etc are just waiting at the doorstep to play cricket for Australia. 2) Cricket Australia doesn't wait for an occassional SRT or RD or SG to walk the planet. On the contrary they manufacture allround cricketers by recruiting them very young. 3) Everyone chosen to wear the "baggy green" are extremely patriotic and exhibit total alround professionalism. As such Australia is fiercely sports crazy nation in hockey, cricket, swimming, Tennis, Soccer and etc. 4) None of the cricketers playing for the national team has a heroic status back home in Australia. The crowd is very mature and treat tem as rest of the citizenry and they don't put undue pressure on them to perform. 5) The Australian Team plays perfectly well as a team rather than depending on few individuals. Ea
RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by Brijesh K on Oct 16, 2007 03:17 AM Permalink
f you still look at west indies track record they have more win:loss ratio to everybody except SA. That is their dominance. Aussies are just showing off they are the boss. The steve waugh men truly conquered 1999 but nothing much they have done after that. It is all mind game they are playing. They do not have talent except may be ponting with bat and mcgrath with ball. But for every ponting there is a sachin and every mcgrath there is a asif from indian subcontinent. Just because they are champions they are becoming more popular. We Asians are suffering from inferiority complex in front of them. Australian team is as good as the Indian team if not better. We have rohit sharma who can hit six with ease, we have yuvraj, we have rp who can hit anybody's stumps at any time. It is just we are worried that we dont have in us. Dhoni might be knowing this and he is calm. Hope Indian cricket will emerge victorious once again. We have once pulled down the mighty west indians and now again we will the bossy kangaroos. Give respect to other sports also that is the key other wise there will not be any sania mirza or vis anand in the future youngsters. Also please give respect to kapil dev he made us win world cup and the indian media pulled him for match fixing. Match fixing was done by weaker hearts not by kapil. Dhoni is the same down to earth guy and fearless as kapil and I hope with him the indian cricket team will change for the betterment of our country.
RE:RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by Brijesh K on Oct 16, 2007 03:24 AM Permalink
also we have only one sport cricket that is why we are behind mentally and the australians have other sports agreed that is an hint of advancing the country. That is another fundamental problem and another topic discussion altogether. But in cricket the only one sport we can beat them miles if we want to and show them just like brazilians show the world their passion in soccer although they lose they are still consider the champs and masters of the game dont they. I want India to be like that in cricket or atleast any nation from subcontinent will do for me but not australia. Ian healy once said that sri lanka are true champions after their team was defeated in srilanka shortly after the world cup. See they were seeing failure back then. But then one great man named steve waugh changed the complexion of the game in the matches against South africa. Australia since then have never looked back, A prime example of a person changing the system to be regarded as bosses for the next several years. Even then steve waugh was sacked but I think from then on the team Australia are winning matches based on scaring others and dominance. Pakistan with their present team can still defeat them clinically. India ok bowlers is always a perennial problem but we can do it with all rounders like pathan and bowlers like rp and zaheer. India breathe cricket and the world if they say cricket it should be synonymous to India.
RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by Starwar on Oct 16, 2007 07:10 AM Permalink
Brijesh..U are a nut...do you even understand cricket...how can you criticize Sachin and Saurav at Nagpur as without their opening stand India would not even come close to Aussies...
I think you just like to back players from Karnataka...
RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by Brijesh K on Oct 16, 2007 07:36 AM Permalink
you are a total stranger to cricket. You dont know cricket. You know what is cricket you fool. I am talking teamwork and maintaining the runrate the reason why pathan was there. Understand you fool and be cool.
RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by srikanth on Oct 16, 2007 12:31 AM Permalink
U r a nut. tendulkar n ganguly played well. Otherwise we would have been allout for 200.
RE:RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by Brijesh K on Oct 16, 2007 12:48 AM Permalink
Mr srikant I can also call you a nut. First learn how to write to people. I am, btw, not calling you nut. This is not for your reading. If some cricket players or any honest person for Indian cricket sees my email and proceeds with anything sensible then that is fine for me. This email is not for you to judge me. tell me one incident where the two have played nicely and pulled us out of a situation when it needed the most. What you dont understand is Indian team which was doing "team work" is all of a sudden dependent on individual stars which should never be the case. Not a single match will be won if we are dependent on any one individual. By sending pathan dhoni tried to increase run rate which tendulkar and ganguly slowed down. But then ponting puts his hands over pathan and all hell break loose and india loose track in the next seven or eight overs. The aussies are showing they are the boss of cricket which infact they are not. we are playing into their hands by giving the respect and keeping chappell as our coach. Hope you as well as others understand this.
RE:RE:RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by srikanth on Oct 16, 2007 01:24 AM Permalink
I know how to write to people. You r not eligible to say words against sachin n saurav. They've played well. Chasing big targets is not possible by one or two people. The openers did their job. it was upto the middle order to raise their game. Dravid/Yuvraj did not play well otherwise we would have won comfortably. For ur kind information sachin scored 72 of 72 balls and pathan scored 29 of 29 balls. Now u tell me did sachin slowed the runrate? Did pathan increased runrate? Check the scorecard mydear before commenting on sachin.
RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by ramesh iyer on Oct 16, 2007 01:59 AM Permalink
Hey Srikant It seems you are the master of written communication. If you indeed know how to write well as you cliam, then in the first place you wouldn't have lost the temper and bashed Brijesh by calling him a nut. Tell me, is this what your education thought you? And again I see that arrogance even with ordinary people like us. Then you guys can imagine the amount of arrogance Yuvi would have after that earth sgattering 6 sixers. To me, the only calm ones even after achieving teh pinnacle of glory or SRT and AR Rahman. Both have gone to dizzy heights, but still are very calm and down to earth. So, lets all learn how to conduct ourselves in this forum before offering our expert advice on improving Indian Cricket. To me a billion people could write in this forum some good thoughts, some down right mediocre, but still none of that is going to change anything with Indian Cricket.
RE:RE:Mental Defeat or Victory
by ramesh iyer on Oct 16, 2007 02:04 AM Permalink
Tendulkar and Gangulay really played well - thats a downright subjective argument. Yes Tendulkar played really well and was really unfortunate in gettinmg out at the most crucial time. After his dismissal, for strange reasons, Ganguly slowed down? Why? He should have rotated the singles. He slowed down and finally got out at the wrong time too. In cricket, you don't win untill the last run is scored or last wicket is taken. And then RD, YS unexplicably slowed down too. We were 171 abouts after 30 overs and were only 210 odd after 40. So between 30 and 40 overs were the crucial time when we lost plot and screwed it up.
