Musharraf's proposals are like from an ignorant person. The civil government, what they are going to propose not known but easily guessed that is nothing in favour of India. If our stand is, "J & K is a sovereign part of India," then we must not sit with Pakistan and talk on this subject at all. The earlier raised proposal i.e. transforming the LOC to international border, can be considered if Pak is willing to accept this. Otherwise I think our government should take very hard stand on this issue.