Pkl. afternoon 3.30pm, Wednesday, 9th July, 2008. I for one would agree partially that we have not been able to take a firm set of essential measures that should convince the Muslim Sunni Kashmiris and other minority communities of Ladakh , northern region Shias , Gujjars and Dogras of Jammu that the traditional Ideology of liberal Kashmiriyat is safe only in a loose-limbed democracy like that of Indian state.Of late kashmiris had been in bad times, they deserve all the sympathies to find a democratic liberal way of getting out of the Jehadi fundamentalism. We in india cannot hasten to let them accept our democratic norms that include acceptance of rights of Buddhists Gujjars ,Shia and Punjabi and Dogras in the jammu regions of Old J&K as well as Shias of Baltistan and Skardu region. Pakistanis have imposed their own tyranny over socalled Azad Kashmir. We must help them all to get over these contratemps by empathetic healing while sternly putting el-Qaeda manuevres.D. Goel