Gerry, the Indian Army is among the better trained forces in the world today, the IPKF and Kargil are not the only yard-sticks around; for your information, the US Army has had its share of setbacks.. be it Iraq, Afghanistan, any other theater you can think of.. including Nam.. we can learn from each other during joint troop and mechanized infantry maneuvers.. ditto for simulated naval and dogfight exercizes.. so lets not pick holes in our armies.. puhleeez!!