Embarras myself?? what a big joke. Is it possible to have honest convesation with a person who tries to argue. As you only mentioned in one of your comments that if I cannot argue why I'm hiding behind historians/intellectual. I never considered this as an argument rather I was considering it as a conversation. you rightly said that i cannot argue. I can only have honest conversation. However you have masters degree in argument. But whoever wins in argument, it does not mean he has proved anything. It means that he is arrogant and stubborn. Hope this explains u.