yogesh,do u sincerely believe that there has been no change since independence? change has occurred and more change has to take place. the problem u are facing is one of misconceived fear. well,u tell me how the upper castes are being affected by this quota.if u can give me details about the cutoff marks for upper castes,obc s ,sc s and st s,we will see what injustice prevails. can u also give me a percentage of the brahmin community and other upper castes in maharashtra. you impute faults to every institution.for a debate,you have to define the boundaries.are we debating to write a new constitution? this carping on creamy layer is such a poor reflection on your thought processes.u are not able to focus on the bigger change,instead u are focussing on the trivial issues. every state government has consistently made efforts to remove the economically better off communities.but u have no information about that?earlier everyone was focussing on the point that reservation was being conducted on a caste basis,the point was raised that mandal used economic criteria to determine the obc s. but you are just going on and on and on. well,now u give me some figures?