It is indeed a tired debate, but nonetheless a important one, it gives India the drive to be successful, and we know what we are trying to out do. Regardless, whatever we are saying and however we are saying, what is the supporting evidence or fact for such. Ms. Desai says that china doesn't have business acumen, or mature private parties etc. I am not sure what you mean by it or how you arrive at such a conclusion, just for my curiosity, we know the type of government in China sure is different from India. We also know that they have lot of private players in their country, much bigger, and started much earlier than indian private enterprise. So the message china doesn't have a business acumen, or trade practices etc and all, are they objective fact, or a subjective view?.